Everyone, give me your opinion on my next pair!!!

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:42 pm

Good choice Chris! Around me, the reds can go for $90 / pair and the yellows can go for $130 / pair. I don't know about the cinnamons.

Good luck!

Finch Fry · Post by **Finch Fry** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:57 pm

Those prices arent THAT bad. I am going to look for a really vibrant yellow pair. I did my homework and know what to look for in getting a really nice/healthy pair.

Perhaps I will get lucky and the purchase of both a cage and pair of stars will get me a good price/deal.

Oh, so excited, only 2 1/2 weeks to go!!!

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:11 pm

Chris, if you get a red male split to yellow and a yellow hen - you can get both some red and some yellow babies. Hmmmmmmm...

Finch Fry · Post by **Finch Fry** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:32 pm

Oh crap, biology. I am a chemical engineer, not a biologist. I have no clue what red split yellow means.

Is this perhaps a outwardly red showing male but has recessive yellow trait (genes) inside of him. And if the girl is yellow, then it would mean i have maybe 25% chance of producing a yellow offspring? Oh man, i am reaching way back to high school biology for punnet square math.

Is yellow considered the recessive trait of the star species? Red would then be dominant. So how do you get cinnamon? And.. how does it work, if you have a yellow female split to red... or wait, that doesnt work, it would be red female if she had split to red. So only way to get yellow is pure YY assuming its recessive. OH DEAR GOD, my head will explode.

Will red and yellows cross breed?

Finch Fry · Post by **Finch Fry** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:36 pm

ok, i took it upon myself to understand this concept. I made a seperate thread about it ....

http://finchforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4773

I will have to wait and see what is available at the bird mart to determine which colors I get or if i can get knowingly SFY male and female breeding pair.

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:56 pm

Floyd Barnett usually always has some at his table. I have never seen the cimmamon ones there. Maybe they will have them this time.

The red are more readily available, but I have seen the yellows also.

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:03 pm

Someone else will have to answer specific genetic questions - I don't have a clue. I only know the adult pair I have and that I have 1 yellow male as a result.

BillD · Post by **BillD** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:32 pm

So the Owls are out of the picture? I really like Stars too and will have some in the future.

I plan to adopt some Owls when I goto the Bird Mart out here. I'm fascinated with the Fawn Owls, but haven't found anything about their genetics. They all seem to be everywhere but here in the U.S.

Hope you find the Stars you want.

Post by **Sally** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:33 am

If you really want yellow Stars, I'd try to find a yellow pair, or at least a yellow male. Yellow is sex-linked, but it is not carried as a recessive gene by all Stars. Males can be red and split to yellow, but if a female is red, she does not carry the yellow gene at all. And you cannot tell visually if a red male is split to yellow, so you must depend on the breeder being honest with you when they say a male is red/split to yellow. I would think that most red Stars for sale are going to give you red offspring--no yellow genes.

The cinnamon, or Isabel, is a mutation, and I have no idea how that comes about. Genetics is not my strong suit, you can tell.

Finch Fry · Post by **Finch Fry** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:38 am

BillD wrote:So the Owls are out of the picture? I really like Stars too and will have some in the future.

I plan to adopt some Owls when I goto the Bird Mart out here. I'm fascinated with the Fawn Owls, but haven't found anything about their genetics. They all seem to be everywhere but here in the U.S.

Hope you find the Stars you want.

Owls are never out of the picture, I just think the Stars will be an easier pair for me to take care of and learn from. I definitely will own a pair of owls in the future!!!

Post by **Sally** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:56 am

One nice thing about Stars is that usually they are not as flighty as Owls. Mine are also the first ones to try out new foods, and they love to bathe. They have a cute little song, it's fairly quiet, but they are very inquisitive little creatures--one of my favorites!

BillD · Post by **BillD** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:48 pm

I didn't know that about Owls, being flighty. I would still like to adopt some, but maybe the Stars would be better right now when I have aviary construction going on. My Societies seem to take everything in stride, as long as they have millet and bath water.

I may not adopt any until I finish my aviary. Don't want to give them any undue stress.