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License

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:16 pm
by jamezyboo21
Is there a site where i can get a license to sell finches. I think there is a site where you can buy one and its like $50 a year but i cant remember what that site was.

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:24 pm
by bonnies_gouldians
Here is the link to the paperwork you will probably have to fill out. Its on myfwc.com which is the fish and wildlife commision of floridas site. The permit is $50 per year and allows you to sell exotic birds.

http://myfwc.com/permits/class_three_wild.pdf

hope that is what you are looking for.

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:30 pm
by B CAMP
Well the amount of birds I will be selling I don't think I want them to be involved in any way ,don't want the risk if any bird flu or something that they could come and take my birds like they did in some other countries.
I never new there was a license to sell finch's any one have one ?

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:03 pm
by poohbear
Sounds like a requirement for commercial breeders not your average pet keeper...

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:37 pm
by bonnies_gouldians
not true at all. Anyone who sells exotics has to have a license to do so. If you are caught selling with out one while at a show, you can get a pretty hefty fine. In Florida, FWC reps are pretty cool. I know several people who are officers for them and have had to present my licensing at reptile shows. They are very serious and I have even heard of people getting short jail sentences and probation with community service depending on how bad of an offense you do.

All that said, however, unless you plan on selling at a bird mart or show, you probably wont have an issue. They can't keep up with the people selling dogs illegally let alone birds and exotics. (I have seen SO many people selling 6 to 7 week old dogs with no health certificate or vaccines, VERY ILLEGAL in Florida!)

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:03 pm
by poohbear
Don't have this problem in the UK.....Our idiots think up lots of other regulations and red tape though.

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:52 pm
by bonnies_gouldians
I have heard some interesting stories about regulations on that side of the pond, mostly in regards to fish, but also in regards to your standard pets like dogs and cats. Is there a lot of rules about birds too?

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:00 pm
by gomer
You need a licence to keep most Australian fauna here.less than half the Australian finches are non licenced.There is talk off having a licence for exotics as well.
The licence I have is about $50 as well,I will be getting the $80 in the future.Damn government revenue raising.
Good to see you Paul.You been lost in that new found shop? :) :?:

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:17 pm
by B CAMP
Do you no what finch's are considered exotic?

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:24 pm
by gomer
Non indigenous species.They can potentially escape and form wild populations competing against native animals.As what has happened here.
Spice finch,european gold finch,green finch to name a few.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:02 am
by bonnies_gouldians
If its not native to FL it is considered exotic. If it is native to Florida, then you may actually have to a have another license to keep them as most species are protected - thats a rehabilitators license. (I think I heard someone talk about a morph of zebra that has "florida" in the name, doubt that the rehab license would apply to this as they are not native to the states).

Gomer - they are always uping the cost on permit in Florida. My hunting/fishing license has gone up at least $5 a year for the last three years. Managment Area permits have gone up a couple dollars as well. The Class III that you have to have to sell exotics birds/reptiles/mammals has not gone up in quite some time though.

Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:24 pm
by poohbear
The strictest rule here is that native birds must be close rung and records kept to prove captive bred...As for dogs and cats I've never heard of any restrictions whatsoever...

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:45 am
by bonnies_gouldians
maybe the regulations I heard about were just for taking your pet with you over there from the USA. I remember having to fill out international documents for vaccines/health certificate for a client once that was going to Europe, don't remember which country though. We had to fill in all sorts of stuff about the last vaccines, especially the rabies, I think the dog had to have 2 rabies shots in the last 12 months or something like that for her to bring it with her over that way.

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:57 pm
by emessis
Moving to another country with your pets can be very difficult....many months of quarantine are typically required, though it really does depend on where you're going and which species your pet is. I understand the reasoning behind it, but think much of it could be altered...

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:21 pm
by poohbear
Due to our very strict quarantine laws over the years,the UK has managed to avoid the problem of rabies.
However the law has been changed now due to the success of modern drugs.Pets can be admitted now with the necessary paperwork and microchips...whereas before, six months of quarantine was compulsory.