Need advice
- Angela&Shalamar
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Need advice
I need some advice for the more socially skilled people here. My sister has bugged me for a pair of my birds for over a year but I managed to put her off as I really don't think she should have animals. Finally I gave in so as to not start world war 3 right after she'd just had a heart attack and gave her a pair of my society finches. I told her the usual, no smoke, no candles, give veggies, etc... Well that was on easter and tonight I find out one died last night. From sounds of it she left the window open yesterday (it wasn't that warm here) and then she misted them with water. I could be wrong but sounds like the poor bird took a chill. She thinks she wants to get into breeding but really has no business doing so. Now she wants another bird. On one hand I really regret giving her the pair in the first place but on the other I feel bad for the one that is now all alone. I don't know how to proceed here but I'm angry and feel like I let my guys down. They were perfectly happy and healthy here and less then a year old. Feeling very sad.
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Re: Need advice
Angela&Shalamar you were put in a very weird position. Make your sister happy or keep your birds safe. How about take the Mate back and give her 2 societies from the pet shop so there is no attachment for you? You really have to enforce the care for finches with her, and I would not let her breed them!! Get 2 males, that's my opinion.
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- Angela&Shalamar
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Re: Need advice
right now my neice and I are plotting to wait until she goes in the hosp again and have her go retrieve the remaining bird and tell her it died. I don't have time to go up their right now nor to have her come down not that she's supposed to drive. I'd be afriad to buy her pet store birds with my luck they'd be sick as the last one I got from the local shop was and I'd be right back where I started.
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Angela&Shalamar tough call, your plan may be the best bet. But would she want more once she would get out of hosp?
I hope she is ok btw.
I hope she is ok btw.
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Re: Need advice
Angela&Shalamar
So sorry about your baby
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I would go visiting with a small bird travel box, tell her the bird looks sick, and take my bird back. She would never get her hands on any of my birds again.
Sorry Sis, but with your health problems, I think looking after birds right now is just too much for you. Here's a nice plant.
Anyone who would mist birds down, and leave them beside an open window, is obviously not responsible enough, or capable of looking after them . One is dead already, I wouldn't sacrifice number two, just to keep her happy, and I would DEFINITELY not give her another bird.
~Elana~
PS I would not get her any birds (pet shop or not , they don't deserve to die).
So sorry about your baby

I would go visiting with a small bird travel box, tell her the bird looks sick, and take my bird back. She would never get her hands on any of my birds again.
Sorry Sis, but with your health problems, I think looking after birds right now is just too much for you. Here's a nice plant.
Anyone who would mist birds down, and leave them beside an open window, is obviously not responsible enough, or capable of looking after them . One is dead already, I wouldn't sacrifice number two, just to keep her happy, and I would DEFINITELY not give her another bird.
~Elana~
PS I would not get her any birds (pet shop or not , they don't deserve to die).
~Elana~
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Re: Need advice
probably but then I could just tell her I don' t have anymore available. I'm only planning on 1 clutch myself this year and that's only to fill my cages for MYSELF, not to sell or rehome.
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Re: Need advice
The sad part is she misted them bacause I told her they like humidity. The intention was good the logic badly flawed.
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Re: Need advice
Angela&Shalamar
I wouldn't beat yourself up over well meaning advice. She left the window open, not you.
Good grief, it's only common sense, not to leave any creature that's wet beside an open window in cool weather, let alone small birds.
Get your bird baby back, while it's still amongst the living.
~Elana~
I wouldn't beat yourself up over well meaning advice. She left the window open, not you.
Good grief, it's only common sense, not to leave any creature that's wet beside an open window in cool weather, let alone small birds.
Get your bird baby back, while it's still amongst the living.
~Elana~
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Re: Need advice
Yeah, I agree get him back as soon as possible!!!!
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Re: Need advice
I agree with lovezebs & delray. Get your bird back. Don't provide her with any more birds.
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Re: Need advice
Is it impossible to talk to her?? Can't you explain to her the basic care and upkeep of a bird? Sounds like she doesn't know how to care for them and maybe this would be a good time to teach her. She obviously wants a bird if she has been bugging you for a long while for one so why not take this opportunity to teach her how to care for them. Then you'd make both your sister and the birds happy, unless you don't have the time to help her learn. You did say she had good intentions just badly flawed logic so she must have been doing what you said they liked and following your direction.
Personally I don't think she is mean or unteachable. Here is a great opportunity to help your sister enjoy birds as you do.
Personally I don't think she is mean or unteachable. Here is a great opportunity to help your sister enjoy birds as you do.
Debbie
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long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)
GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56
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Re: Need advice
Angela&Shalamar
It is hard to now what to say without knowing what was behind this statement. Is there is a history of poor care etc or is it because she has had the heart attack? Assuming there is not a problem with her intellect or ability to learn how to care for the birds, I tend to agree with Debbie. Many people make what seem to be silly mistakes (to those who are experienced) when they first start to care for a new species, but then go on to become wonderful guardians. Perhaps you can provide her with some books and articles to read.I really don't think she should have animals
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Mary
zebras
societies
strawberries 1 pr, 2 F
gold-breasted waxbill 2 pr
cordon bleu blue capped, 2 pr, 1 M
cordon bleu red cheeked M
red-faced starfinch M
yellow faced starfinch M
Melodious Cuban finch M
gouldian red head norm. M, yellow white breast M
green singer M
canary, gloster, corona, blue pied, M
cut-throat 1 pr & 1 M
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Re: Need advice
I don't really have any advice on this, as it is a VERY tough situation, and I don't know enough about the situation to really give an educated opinion. So that being said, i did want to comment that I am so sorry you lost a baby. It can't be easy, especially knowing that she did this under your direction.... which I am the same way ... i would blame myself, but it is NOT your fault, as the others said, you didn't mist the bird, and you didn't leave the window opened but also, you don't even know if that's deffinitely it So don't beat yourself up, as i said I am the same and would totally blame myself, but it's not your fault. I just wanted to extend my condolences, as it is so difficult to lose a living breathing creature, ESPECIALLY one that you raised and cared for. So, I am sorry for your loss. And I am sorry for your situation, you are in a tough spot, when it comes to family things can get.... sticky...let's just say
I would tend to agree with the others on getting that bird back, because even if she CAN care for him, he shouldn't be alone especially being a "society" finch... Good luck, and keep us posted.
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Re: Need advice
I say not a tough situation. She has to be told that you are not comfortable giving her another bird (as she is not responsible enough). Adults should be treated like adults - no beating around the bush. If she wants another bird, let her be responsible for buying one herself. That way you are out of it --
I will also agree that if she is really so inattentive that her pets are at risk, then you should try to collect back your live bird and NOT recommending getting any birds in the future.
Gene
I will also agree that if she is really so inattentive that her pets are at risk, then you should try to collect back your live bird and NOT recommending getting any birds in the future.
Gene