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GouldianGuy
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Celeris
Well, how many, and what type of cages did he plan to provide?
Good luck to him finding someone prepared to let loose 80 birds in their home.
Well, how many, and what type of cages did he plan to provide?
Good luck to him finding someone prepared to let loose 80 birds in their home.
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Not to mention someone willing to do a head count every day and then go hunting any missing birds who might be stuck behind furniture, or injured, or got in somewhere small and out of sight or ... ad infinitum.
Assuming they were willing/knowledgeable enough about bird-proofing to have taken care of all the more common dangers to start with. Somebody like that most likely already HAS birds loose in the house and doesn't want to add your 80 strangers, LOL!
Assuming they were willing/knowledgeable enough about bird-proofing to have taken care of all the more common dangers to start with. Somebody like that most likely already HAS birds loose in the house and doesn't want to add your 80 strangers, LOL!
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lovezebs
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Well good luck to this fellow with finding a person willing to look after his birdies.
As mentioned above, he would need large flights, not a few cages, plus these birds would probably be freaking out after being free for goodness knows how long.
I'm just glad you connected with him, and will be able to grab some Gouldians from him at some point
Well good luck to this fellow with finding a person willing to look after his birdies.
As mentioned above, he would need large flights, not a few cages, plus these birds would probably be freaking out after being free for goodness knows how long.
I'm just glad you connected with him, and will be able to grab some Gouldians from him at some point
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w.l.
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Absolutely.lovezebs wrote: As mentioned above, he would need large flights, not a few cages, plus these birds would probably be freaking out after being free for goodness knows how long.
I had earlier this year had to put all my aviary-living birds in cages for ca one month due to moving, and it was horrible. They were so stressed, I lost many for seemingly no reason.
And I didn't put 60+ of them in a single round cage not taking up much space either...
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I can't imagine how many 'cages' it would take to house 60 to 80 birds (unless he means large flights).
In small cages, those poor birds would just bash themselves to death against the bars, after having the freedom of a whole house.
There would surely be losses, and I wonder if the bird sitter would be held responsible for that.
I can't imagine how many 'cages' it would take to house 60 to 80 birds (unless he means large flights).
In small cages, those poor birds would just bash themselves to death against the bars, after having the freedom of a whole house.
There would surely be losses, and I wonder if the bird sitter would be held responsible for that.
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I'd say for a 1-3 months period, 6-8 birds should be the absolute maximum in a cage that is of a size that a single person can easily handle, eg the 60 or 75cm long types. And they should be long, not round ones!
So that means at least 10 cages, not just one.
And of course moving birds with chicks in nest is likely to mean the latter getting abandoned - just the thing a new caretaker needs!
I'd say for a 1-3 months period, 6-8 birds should be the absolute maximum in a cage that is of a size that a single person can easily handle, eg the 60 or 75cm long types. And they should be long, not round ones!
So that means at least 10 cages, not just one.
And of course moving birds with chicks in nest is likely to mean the latter getting abandoned - just the thing a new caretaker needs!
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w.l. lovezebs
He described about seven cages to me, but only the round one sounded particularly large--and it was definitely in a more vertical orientation. For the period of time he was talking, I was definitely picturing many stacking 30x18x18 cages or a bunch of big ole flights like my own. Even with my spare cages, I imagined the poor things all crammed into those cages, absolutely miserable. Just not something I could bring myself to do to the birds! (And, like I said, he really sounded more interested in having them loose, himself. He certainly didn't seem the kind of keeper prone to relying on cages.)
Elana, I did actually specifically ask how he would feel about inevitable losses and he said he, unfortunately, was expecting them. You can't move so many birds without the risk of it. But yes, the abandoned babies was a biiig concern on my part! I have deliberately avoided breeding, so that would have been a whole new experience for me.
He described about seven cages to me, but only the round one sounded particularly large--and it was definitely in a more vertical orientation. For the period of time he was talking, I was definitely picturing many stacking 30x18x18 cages or a bunch of big ole flights like my own. Even with my spare cages, I imagined the poor things all crammed into those cages, absolutely miserable. Just not something I could bring myself to do to the birds! (And, like I said, he really sounded more interested in having them loose, himself. He certainly didn't seem the kind of keeper prone to relying on cages.)
Elana, I did actually specifically ask how he would feel about inevitable losses and he said he, unfortunately, was expecting them. You can't move so many birds without the risk of it. But yes, the abandoned babies was a biiig concern on my part! I have deliberately avoided breeding, so that would have been a whole new experience for me.
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Celeris
I would grab your birdies from him before this big adventure, while they are calm and happy, rather than stressed and half out of their mind after all this.
Just a word to the wise.
The babies, would probably be the first losses, as many parents will abandon their nests, with being grabbed and shoved into cages
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If you want experience in hand feeding, offer to take some of the slightly older nestlings that will be abandoned and hand rearing them
It could be a very rewarding experience for you.
I would grab your birdies from him before this big adventure, while they are calm and happy, rather than stressed and half out of their mind after all this.
Just a word to the wise.
The babies, would probably be the first losses, as many parents will abandon their nests, with being grabbed and shoved into cages
.If you want experience in hand feeding, offer to take some of the slightly older nestlings that will be abandoned and hand rearing them
It could be a very rewarding experience for you.~Elana~
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w.l.
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Or a very frustrating and heart-breaking one if they don't make it, despite all efforts.lovezebs wrote: Celeris
offer to take some of the slightly older nestlings that will be abandoned and hand rearing them
I'd stick to getting some adults.
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@lovezebsw.l. wrote: Absolutely.
I had earlier this year had to put all my aviary-living birds in cages for ca one month due to moving, and it was horrible. They were so stressed, I lost many for seemingly no reason.
And I didn't put 60+ of them in a single round cage not taking up much space either...
I've had this happen before and was at a loss to figure out what happened? I had a few finches and a canary years ago outside in a flight cage and then brought them inside when it got cold. They all died within a few days. I was never sure what happened and have been afraid of trying again.
Was it just the stress of taking away their freedom? How, then, do you cage breed birds that have been in a flight cage? I'm trying to figure this all out. Sorry to hijack this discussion.
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Millenia
You were quoting me but asking lovezebs
Anyway, I certainly didn't lose all my birds, and the losses didn't happen within just a few days either.
Losing all birds within a few days is certainly not normal, if it was, no wild birds would survive being caught and put to cages.
Birds moved from an aviary to a cage to breed will be moved to a good-sized cage just for the pair of them.
Very different from the situation discussed here.
You were quoting me but asking lovezebs
Anyway, I certainly didn't lose all my birds, and the losses didn't happen within just a few days either.
Losing all birds within a few days is certainly not normal, if it was, no wild birds would survive being caught and put to cages.
Birds moved from an aviary to a cage to breed will be moved to a good-sized cage just for the pair of them.
Very different from the situation discussed here.
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w.l.
Sorry. I still don't have this board figured out. LOL I never figured out why my birds died within a few days of moving them indoors and no one could ever give me much advice. I keep thinking maybe I wasn't feeding them correctly. It was years ago but it made me leery of trying again for all these years but now I have the internet.
Perhaps my cages were too small then. I'm trying to go by everyone's recommendations as far as housing and feeding so hopefully won't have the same issue.
Sorry. I still don't have this board figured out. LOL I never figured out why my birds died within a few days of moving them indoors and no one could ever give me much advice. I keep thinking maybe I wasn't feeding them correctly. It was years ago but it made me leery of trying again for all these years but now I have the internet.
Perhaps my cages were too small then. I'm trying to go by everyone's recommendations as far as housing and feeding so hopefully won't have the same issue.
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Millenia
A canary and a few (supposedly domesticated) finches should definitely not die from being put to a cage unless you squeeze them into a tiny one like sardines.
It sounds to me that either the cage was put to the wrong location (in draft or too hot) or some major blunder was made at feeding them (not enough food provided or poisoning).
A canary and a few (supposedly domesticated) finches should definitely not die from being put to a cage unless you squeeze them into a tiny one like sardines.
It sounds to me that either the cage was put to the wrong location (in draft or too hot) or some major blunder was made at feeding them (not enough food provided or poisoning).