gee thanks for the support guys!
They're actually driving me crazy too lol
I'm really a "hands on" sort of person and at first I thought it'd be ok not being able to handle them, but it really bothers me. I don't know why, maybe I don't have enough self control. The noise is also out of control, we can't talk on the phone in this room any more. We talked about different finches but I think John's realised that having a pet just to look at isn't that fun.
We had a good talk and John admitted that a handleable bird would be a better pet for us, which is huge b/c last year he was completely against me getting any bird and now he's ok with me getting something else. It is definitely the finches themselves, because if I build the big cage I want to get more he's worried about even more noise. I also had given in and offered not to build the big cage because he wants to get me a puppy (OMG!!) but was worried about the expense of a big new cage.
The finches were actually a compromise between him and I, I wanted a cockatiel/conure/budgie/parrotlet/parakeet and he didn't want a bird, then his friends were moving to Europe and wanted to give us their bird (Alfred) well then once we got him we had to take proper care of him. When Alfred died I wanted to rehome Andie (you all may remember that) and get a budgie, but John refused b/c I think he thought I was still wanting a cockatiel or conure even though they won't fit in this cage
So we got Sam, then they had babies and it snowballed. I think having the finches has been a good thing b/c they made him realise that birds aren't that hard to care for, they are a bit messy but that's not so bad AND he's finally realised that the tame birds are more enjoyable b/c you get interaction with the noise. If it wasn't the finches that bothered him he would want me to just keep Sam and Andie, not build the flight cage, which I've already agreed to and rehome the babies. Since he is ok with all of them going and me getting another bird, it's the finches lol.
I found a White capped Pionus in the paper for $300 with cages and everything, but I don't know if we'll get it, the owners aparently never cage him and since I have cats, not caging the bird overnight or when we're not home wouldn't be an option.
The store where I'm bringing the finches had offered to give me a trade on them I'm going to call and ask what sort of birds they have in that can go in this cage and how much of a trade I'll get. I was looking into Bourke's and they're supposedly quiet, gentle and quite cuddly.
I'll still lurk in the forums lol I'm a forum junkie, you guys give me something to do at work when there's nothing to do
How old will the chicks be when they finally lose all the black on their beaks? They're 6 weeks and 2 days right now. I'm only asking b/c the store where I'm giving them to requires, for all their hand fed chicks that you be a part of the process of handling them during the hand feeding and weaning process, so I'd want to be able to go and pick out a chick soon so that I can bring in the finches and hopefully bring home the new bird within a week of dropping them off. I'll obviously want to disinfect the cage and leave it sit empty for a few days before putting the new bird in.
oh and it's MY computer he uses, he just uses it while I'm not home. I work at a vet clinic 9-9 on Sunday (now maybe saturdays too
) and 3-11pm Mon - Wed. So he plays World of Warcraft (if you dont' know what that is don't find out it's totally addictive) while I'm at work. But my *coughsuperiorcough* computer is the only one we have that will run the game. So it's in my office which is where my birds and crabs live
I have too many myself right now and with the new aviary they have decided to make nests all over the floor! It's getting out of hand. It's soon going to be like Willard! 
You guys have also been wonderful answering all my stupid questions with patience, kindness and humour.