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Hi Folks,

I was going over "birds on Kijiji" in my area, and came across this.

Now I'm not looking for Budgies, but this cage caught my attention...

Can you imagine keeping two birds in this cage?
I wouldn't keep a mouse in something so small, let alone two birds

How can people be so misinformed, or simply so cruel?

Lack of education is one thing, but this is clearly lack of compassion.

lovezebs MisterGribs
Something is definitely wrong with the person who can look at this setup and think it's OK....

Jen Seems to me that they just don't care.

MisterGribs
I call it ignorance....How can someone not look at their pet...bird, cat, dog, horse....and not ask themselves "how would I like to be ___" (pet) living in their environment? I see ads all the time from folks who are trying to give or sell their pet because they admit not having the time to spend with them. At least they can see that their pet is unhappy and they are trying to find a good home. Most people don't understand the word "commitment" and what that means. Pretty sad....

Jen MisterGribs

And they want $150.00 for this ?

I should contact them, and see what they want for the birds alone, without this torture chamber cage.

Young Budgies at the Pet Shop, go for $22.00
On kijiji, you can usually get Budgies, for as little as $5.00-$10.00.

I can't figure out how to get it to let me actually look at that pic as an attachment so I can't see any of the details.

But every single budgie specific forum I've tried to get involved with has a sticky somewhere telling people that an 18" square cage is the right size for a budgie - a bird that is at least 2x if not 3x as big as a finch. So I have no faith whatsoever in anything else on any of those forums. If they can't see that keeping a bird in an 18x18 cage where it cannot even hope to climb about much, let alone fly, then nothing they have to say on those forums has any credibility.

A budgie needs MORE room than a finch, not less.

So the person who owns that cage may have come across similar disinformation re budgies on the interwebs and think they are Doin' It Right when they are actually Doin' It Wrong.

It makes me angry. It's just deliberate cruelty.

Sojourner I liked the answer a parrot rehabilitation worker gave when asked how much space was enough for a bird.

''1000 square KM''

But realistically, bigger is ALWAYS better.

Here's the link to the ad...

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-birds/calgary/tw ... 1243747891

So that you can get a better look at this thing.

I e-mailed them to see what they would want for just the 2 birds.
We'll see if they respond.

lovezebs ''Buggies''

That explains it- it's meant to be an insect enclosure

MisterGribs

Yea, people can't spell worth a darn.

Then there are the one's who simply don't have a clue of what they're talking about.

I've seen some ads, that just make me shake my head...

Sparrows for sale (selling Zebra Finches).
Finches for sale (selling Lovebirds).
Red 'Factory' Canaries (not Red Factor). I've always wanted to ask where their Factory is, and what other birds their Factory produces, lol.

MisterGribs wrote: Sojourner I liked the answer a parrot rehabilitation worker gave when asked how much space was enough for a bird.

''1000 square KM''

But realistically, bigger is ALWAYS better.

Well not so much for a travel cage! The cage they are in is too small for a full-time cage (I have a pair of F040s waiting for me to feel energetic enough to alter and assemble to make a ginormous flight cage) but too big for a travel cage. Can't even fit it through the door of my car.

lovezebs I imagined the canaries themselves are good, reliable factory workers.

Sojourner Yeah, travel cages don't really count. I kind of think of the kennels we cram our cats into when they go to the vet.

I am super stoked about some of the cages I see on here! I'm relatively proud of mine, but I would love to make it bigger.

I admit I've always liked birds, but as far as pets go I started with one pair of zeebs and now I am an addict.