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StevePax
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by StevePax » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:01 am
http://www.birdandcage.com/flight.html#16421
It's the 16421 Wrought Iron cage, with a removable divider. It seems like there would be some great flying room in there, and the cage design is definitely not ugly or objectionable at all. Anyone have one like this, and have any likes/dislikes?
Is $300 (free shipping) a pretty good price for this cage? I've bought from this website before, and they seemed to have the best prices when I did.
It would be great to have a beautiful large cage like this (I currently have the 30x18x36 standard cage). Anyone?
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by tammieb » Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:20 pm
I have the 480 Wrought Iron Cage that is listed right below the one you are asking about. It's very similiar, but half the width. I have kept finches in mine, but have my budgie pair in it now.
They are nice cages. I love mine.
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by debbyloo » Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:00 pm
Yes, I have this cage. Got it at Christmas. I love it. My birds are enjoying being able to fly around so much in it, especially the cordons who zip from one end to the other. The only think I do not like about it is that I don't like to have the grate at the bottom of my cage. I prefer a solid bottom so I don't have to scrap stuff off the grate all the time. Usually I have been able to just reverse the positioning of the grate and the tray, but I have not been able to do that on this model, so I just put paper on the grate (and some on the tray too). The removable divider is very handy if you find a need to temporarily separate some birds from others (like when breeding) or to catch some out (just go after the one or ones in one half and the others in the other half don't freak out so much). Also, when cleaning out the cage, the birds go to the opposite end I'm working on and they don't seem as stressed about me messing around in their cage. It is a very pretty cage, and well made, and I love it. You will want a way tp keep all the seeds inside. I have a sweet friend who made me a giant fabric seed catcher!
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by tammieb » Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:06 pm
debbyloo wrote: You will want a way tp keep all the seeds inside. I have a sweet friend who made me a giant fabric seed catcher!
The skirts help. But if you want to nearly eliminate the flying seed hulls then I suggest you check out the seed hoppers that TammyS. sells.
http://www.justbirdstuff.com/product.ph ... bestseller
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by StevePax » Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:01 pm
Currently, my finches eat mostly pellets, so we don't usually have seed hull problems (though they do toss a few pellets around now and then). But when I do give them seed or millet (once or twice a week), I put it in a dish on the floor of the cage, right in the middle of the cage. It helps contain most of it. The problem is, the spray millet hulls are very tiny and lightweight, and the wind generated from a bird flying away blows those things everywhere!
Anyway, thanks for the tips on the new cage. I'm thinking about getting it, if I can find room for it without disrupting the whole living room at home.
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by EmilyHurd » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:16 am
I have a few of the Vision cages that I believe are made in England...
They are great and have really eliminated the mess!
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by plantsandbirds » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:59 am
I've looked at this cage for a couple of months now. I did a Google search and found that
www.qualitydiscountcages.com has this cage for about $240.00
www.birdscomfort.com has the cage for about $259.00 - that was when I was quoted on shipping for birdscomfort. I believe this is an "HQ" cage?
Some of the companies that have the cage for less don't have all of the colors, which might be a problem for you.
I too am wondering how it would look in my tiny living room! It would take up almost one wall of the room! I don't like the idea of the grate at the bottom either. I don't like to clean the grate and my finches love to hop around on the bottom of their cage to peck at greens and seeds and to take their bath.
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by ocalona » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:35 pm
I have been looking @ this cage also. I have 3 of the single HQ cages & love them!. While I would love to have this double, I already have wall-to-wall cages with no where to put another. As for the grate, it slides out & is easily cleaned. My husband cleans them in the bathtub in the winter, outdoors in the summer. We just clean the tray, put in fresh paper, slide the tray back & then pull out the grate so no birds get loose. Much easier than my smaller flight cages!

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by StevePax » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:18 pm
ARG! I just cleaned my current cage (a pretty standard 30x18x36 flight), and I really like the idea of removable grates on this one. I swear, the grates don't keep my birds away from their poop - the grates have more poop on them than the paper underneath, half of the time! And they are absolutely impossible to keep clean. Thank heavens bird poop doesn't stink! I'm this close to just buying this double flight. My wife is just afraid that if I get it, I'll just fill it to the brim with birds (is that so bad?!?).
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by Crystal » Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:32 pm
Steve, have you tried spraying the grates with nonstick cooking spray? It makes them much easier to clean and helps the poop slide off.
Just a thought!
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by ocalona » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:15 am
The grates are not hard to clean, the hard part of cleaning bird poop is having to do it inside the cage & usually while the birds are in it. Believe me, the grates wash clean in just a few minutes, dry them off, slide them in & it makes the whole cage seem much cleaner! The powder coating is not hard to clean the poop off of. I don't think I would want to spray them with cooking spray though, I would think it would make them slip around on the grate, the grating is a little wide for finch feet as it is.
If I had it to do over I would have bought the double & 2 singles, I have enough societies that the double would be perfect for all of them.

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by ocalona » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:24 am
Oops! Forgot to mention you might check around on the internet @ other websites. You might be able to get the cage cheaper. Try e-bay, I think I saw the same cage a little bit cheaper even wth shipping added in.
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by tammieb » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:02 am
Why not just lay the paper on top of the grate? It might not be very handy with a small cage, but the larger ones it shouldn't be a problem. I could easily cover my grate with paper but choose not to.
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by plantsandbirds » Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:35 am
StevePax wrote: I'm this close to just buying this double flight. My wife is just afraid that if I get it, I'll just fill it to the brim with birds (is that so bad?!?).

Of course you will have to fill it up!

heh heh
I've just purchased the single flight cage from QDC because I was afraid that if I purchased the double that I'd have WAYYYYYY too many finches in my little house. I really didn't intend to have more finches right at the moment but the local rescue is getting ten in this weekend and I'm hoping to be able to help them with taking some. I'd rather rescue than breed anyway since the needy birds are increasing.
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by StevePax » Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:23 pm
tammieb wrote:Why not just lay the paper on top of the grate? It might not be very handy with a small cage, but the larger ones it shouldn't be a problem. I could easily cover my grate with paper but choose not to.
I've wondered about this, too - how do you get the paper in and out of the cage? I mean, the door is pretty big, but the cage is much bigger. And then taking it out...I guess I could roll it up in the cage and take it out that way, or something?