What's your finch feeding routine?

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Post by nixity » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:51 am

gomer wrote:Tiffany,do you live in new jersey?Just wondering as all?, your products are available in Australia.And also from birds r us Australia.If so is there a birds r us in U.S.A.or do you get the gear shipped?
Hi gomer, yes I am in NJ.
The Birds R Us seed that I use has been offered for sale through the FabulousFinch.com website, this is where I get it from.
The only thing I use from Birds R Us though are these particular seed blends.

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Post by CandoAviary » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:44 pm

I feed my red throats a seed mix of ABBA products. A mix of Finch, canary, canary song and finch treat, Goldenfeast australian blend, zupreem nuggets and rowdybush crumbles. This is the base I feed my goldbreast, zebras, gouldians also. In a seperate cup I offer eggfood with boiled egg grated in. I offer a mix of bag O bugs, Feast insectivorus, miracle meal, bee pollen. Another cup has a mix of mineral grit, kelp, trace mineral dust, charcoal, and sand grit. I then feed organic homegrown carrot tops and leaf lettuce such as oakleaf and ruby red varieties.
I grow containers of meal worms. I add high protein dog kibble to the bran. This results in the mealworms being higher in protein. I also have been know to drive pine stakes into the grown and offer cultured termites!! A favorite of the goldbreast.
Sprouted seed and millet sprays are given occasionally. Babies get all the millet sprays they want.
My scarlet chested grasskeets are the only birds that really like any fruit.

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Post by dfcauley » Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:32 am

Sounds like all the little birdies get a wonderful diet! :lol:
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Post by gomer » Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:15 am

nixity wrote:
gomer wrote:Tiffany,do you live in new jersey?Just wondering as all?, your products are available in Australia.And also from birds r us Australia.If so is there a birds r us in U.S.A.or do you get the gear shipped?
Hi gomer, yes I am in NJ.
The Birds R Us seed that I use has been offered for sale through the FabulousFinch.com website, this is where I get it from.
The only thing I use from Birds R Us though are these particular seed blends.
Have you tried thier black sprouting mix yet?I have some but have not tried it yet.
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Post by nixity » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:52 am

gomer wrote:
Have you tried thier black sprouting mix yet?I have some but have not tried it yet.
YES! I love it!
I used to use the Abba sprout mix which has oily seeds in it, and they would never sprout.
The Birds R Us black sprouting mix chits in less than 36 hours.

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Post by dfcauley » Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:06 am

I ordered the sprouting seeds also and expect them today along with some of the seeds to try. I should get them today. :lol:
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Post by gomer » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:45 am

mine are chitted in bags in the freezer.Waiting for colder weather before i feed it out.
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Post by fairestfinches » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:11 am

Steph,

Keep in mind that you are keeping Parrot Finches and that their dietary needs will differ in many regards from the program Tiffany is using for her gouldians. With that said, we do not prescribe to the austerity style feeding program because all of the research that supports that type of feeding cycle has been done on birds in the wild and the needs of caged birds are somewhat different due to the nature of captivity. Also something to keep in mind is that, what works for one person or one bird may not work for everyone or all birds, and I completely understand that. (Sally and Donna differ a bit with there programs from ours, and have great success with the diet they use.) Lord knows we have tried many things over the years with our beta testing program. Some things work great while others not so much. When we find something that works we add it to or program or replace something that it does a better job at. We have, however, been using our program for several years with much success, and our customer base is a testament to that. I have to give kudos to Morning Bird and Twin Beaks Aviary for their great lines of avian products for much of our success. The real key is to offer variety in the diet since no one food source is complete.

We do not colony breed any longer. While we keep mixed flights there is only one pair of a species in a flight. Our program is fairly simple since we keep more birds than we can keep an accurate daily count on.

Here is our program. . .

We use our own seed blend, Miracle Herb Seed, which is a blend of our Premium Finch Seed, Miracle Meal, and Herb Salad mixed at a proprietary ratio. Fresh egg food here's the recipe we use and share

http://www.fairestfinches.com/articles/ ... /90955.htm

(I started keeping chickens this past year to insure that the eggs are the best organic eggs I can get without paying an arm and a leg for them at the market. My egg bill used to be around $50.00 a month, and is now reduced to around $15.00 for feeding my flock of Australorps.)

We also offer Convenience Mix which is powdered cuttlebone, fine ground charcoal, powdered kelp, and trace minerals powder mixed at a proprietary ratio. We also offer spray millet once a week as a treat for non breeding birds and all of the time for breeding pairs with juvies since the spray millet works great for teaching the young how to husk seed and feed themselves as well as being an easily digestible source of nutrition. We also offer Palm Oil Meal (another proprietary product) to give the birds essential fatty acids in a form that does not go rancid, which helps to prevent egg binding and improve feather condition. We use canned meal worms instead of live because the live ones gross Michele out, and it reduces the amount of care needed for the worms. We use Liquid Iodine and Calcium Plus in the water a couple of times a week. We do not offer a lot of dark green leafy veggies because consuming too much of them can cause health problems for the birds. We will, on occasion, offer dark green leafy veggies as a treat.

We do not purchase sprouting seed since the seed in our Premium Finch Blend is untreated, organic seed and it sprouts very quickly. So we just use that when we choose to sprout seed as a treat for our birds.


Hope that helps some and does not create any confusion for you in your quest for a diet program you can use.

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Post by nixity » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:22 am

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Post by fairestfinches » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:52 pm

Tiffany,

I apologize for making you feel as if I singled you out in a negative way. While you interpreted the post Steph made as a general question, I interpreted her post as pertaining to Parrot Finches, and I know that you raise Gouldians and not Parrot Finches. I also know the other members who responded to Steph's question and that they either keep Parrot Finches or have done a ton of research on them in anticipation of keeping them. We have kept Parrot Finches and bred them ourselves. I guess you missed the part about my reference to Sally and Donna using programs that are a bit different from ours, and that they are successful with theirs.

Just because you're paranoid does not mean that I'm out to get you.

Contrary to you're statement about knowing why I posted what I did in my response. You're making this out to be more than it is. As many members of the finch forum can attest, I tend to speak plainly and when I post I try tailor my post to the member and the species they keep. If I offended you in my effort to provide a response as such, I sincerely apologize.

While Parrot Finches and Gouldians are both considered to be Australian Grassland Finches, the environment of their respective habitats are different as well as their dietary needs. In the wild, Gouldians breed once a year then molt while Parrot Finches breed year round, and can molt after raising a clutch or two and go back to breeding right away. As such, Mike Fidler's dietary program you mentioned may work for gouldians, but is not necessarily appropriate for parrot finches since the sparseness of the austere mix can wreak havoc on their more frequent breeding/molting cycle.

In addition, parrot finches are more prone to obesity and stress from being kept in small enclosures, whereas gouldians are not. In other words, parrot finches can be stressed from being housed in a 30x18 size cage moreso than gouldians would be, and, as such, should be kept in larger enclosures. Furthermore, while parrot finches are seed eaters, their diet also should include as much or more protein year round than a gouldian's to compensate for their year-round breeding and molting. Parrot finches also do enjoy some fruits on occasion, whereas it is extremely rare for gouldians to eat fruit.

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Post by dfcauley » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:23 pm

I think that we can all learn something from everyone on this forum. I have learned much from Tiffany since she joined and I ordered some of the sprouting seeds that she uses and love it.

I have also learned much from Sean and Michelle and have ordered Palm Meal from them. (Can you see that I like to try new things?)

If you have ever seen my pictures of my aviary you can see that I have a birdie buffet. I have available to my birds at all times..... herb salad, charocoal, powdered kelp, V-Vite, palm meal, trace minerals, Miracle Meal and egg shells. I have millet available at all times. Then I have their seeds which I buy from Larraine at ladygouldian.com. VERY seldom do I add anything to their water. I treat them all for air sac mites three times a year. Whatever one bird gets in the aviary, they all get. :lol:

Other than my gouldians, I only have one pair of each of the species that I have in the aviary. You will be surprised what birds will eat when they see the others. My juvie gouldians eat worms! And they LOVE to bathe.
I attribute this to them see all the others birds do these things. They get soaking wet and not just sprinkled.

I agree that variety is the key.

I think I am giving mine too many greens. I have been giving them each morning fresh eggfood, chopped greens and soaked seeds mixed with carrots and broccoli. I am going to lay off some on the greens. One the weekend, I pick them chickweed or whatever is available at that time.

Sometimes on this forum I have had someone to respond to a post that I felt offensive about. I think that is easy to do when you don't "know" that person. After meeting so many nice people a few weeks back at a bird mart I found they were nothing like what I thought they were. It was a pleasure to meet them and what a great time we all had.

So..... in saying that.... thank you to all who help me with their great ideas and let's try hard to not have hard feelings on this great forum.
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Post by nixity » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:27 pm

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Post by fairestfinches » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:40 pm

Tiffany,

It is not my intention to fight with you, and I have already apologized for any possible offense. As I previously stated I speak plainly. You're taking things too personal.

I think we should have a hug or something.

Once again. . . I APOLOGIZE. . .

Let's move on O.K.?

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Post by GOULDYGIRL » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:43 pm

Very well said Donna. This is a place to share ideas and get some new ones. I like to try and give my birds a variety and very open to try new things, etc. I love certain products and so do my birds but I think a change once in a while is a good thing. If something sounds reasonable and good to me I'll give it a try, same goes for something that doesn't pertain to me or is not something I feel comfortable doing. I try what is in the best interest for my situation and my birds. Like Sean said in another post I believe what works well for some may not work well for others and vise versa.

It's a little uncomfortable to watch people go back and forth, odviously this sounds like an ongoing situation that is between the indivdual parties. It's really not helping other's on here who are hear to learn and just enjoy our birds.

Anyway, moving on and upward, LOL!!

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