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Bad Experience with Product

Post by TailFeathers » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:10 pm

Hello,

Today I purchased a jar of thrive by morningbird products and it literally caused the death of a baby canary. The label says to prepare a paste of one teaspoon (5ml) to one teaspoon of clean water.

This does not turn into a paste. It turns into a gel. One drop ended up gluing s baby chick to the nest and killing it from starvation and exhuastion as it did not have any strength left tot move it at all.

I'm just Posting this as a warning to others who may think this product is safe to use and it has no warning labels either.

I expect morning bird to take care of this, or they'll be faced with an expensive lawsuit. And I'm not the litigious kind either, but when they lie about something being a paste when it's a gel and it makes a bird die unnecessarily then you have no recours, except taking legal action IF they don't recall their product and refund my monies spent on the canary and on their product.

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Post by MiaCarter » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:34 pm

Aw, I'm sorry to hear about your canary. That's a shame.

I have Thrive, but I've never used it in that preparation.
I wonder if contact with the liquid could have chilled the baby too.

How did he end up with the Thrive preparation in the nest? Did he regurgitate it, perhaps?
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Post by TailFeathers » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:14 pm

MiaCarter wrote: Aw, I'm sorry to hear about your canary. That's a shame.

I have Thrive, but I've never used it in that preparation.
I wonder if contact with the liquid could have chilled the baby too.

How did he end up with the Thrive preparation in the nest? Did he regurgitate it, perhaps?
Hey,

I'm not sure. What I do know is that it's not safe for use as a "paste" as the company calls it.

I do know I won't touch it ever again, just because of this bad experience. I went back to my preparation I made half hour earlier and it was stuck to the glass too. I'm not sure if this is a manufacturer defect or what, but that stuff is super sticky. Whether a drop came out from the syringe somehow or the bird vomited this mix, it doesn't make a difference to me. I borrowed avian formula from a friend, it worked wonders. I just bought this today bc I ran out and the store didn't carry that specific brand.

What a shame to lose this bird. The hen will not even sit on her nestlings now and she looks really stressed out too.

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Post by lovezebs » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:26 pm

TailFeathers
I'm so sorry to hear about your baby Canary.
I have never used Thrive, is it suppose to be a baby formula? Or a supplement?

I'm not surprised that you are angry. I'd be angry too. When you buy a product, you expect it to be beneficial, not harmful, and definitely not lethal.

So sorry again.

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Post by delray » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:54 pm

TailFeathers hey sorry about that!! That's crazy. Now everyone knows not to use that product :?
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Post by Sally » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:45 pm

So sorry you lost the baby. Did you administer this directly to the crop? If the baby was stuck, it must have regurgitated some of the paste. I have never used it in that manner, but I have added it to soft foods or egg food. I know a very experienced breeder who always added a pinch of Thrive to her hand feeding formula. I personally have never had a problem with it.
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Post by TailFeathers » Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:14 am

Hey all,

Sorry I can't reply to each post one by one, but in short almost no one has used it in the 50/50 water to powder form. It's terrible. Apparently the baby may have vomited or a drop left the shrine somehow. Tomorrow morning I'll check on the rest of the clutch.

The thickening agent in the formula is to blame for sure. It tries to get the suspension to grow by volume and it has lots of air bubbles in it, so It's highly likely the baby threw up. I'll try to confirm that if there's residue on the other chicks and the nest.

If so, that means it just kept on expanding in the crop.

I give shots directly to the crop and thrive can also be used to rear chicks. Says so on the back.

I was off to a good breeding season this year and I was trying to stay all natural and organic, but got a little jealous when another breeder showed his birds to me in his avian formula and I decided to do the same. Next round of clutches, I'm reverting back to all organics no supplements or anything.

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