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VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:21 am
by batuhan
The birds need vitamin D3 to absorbe calcium, and to produce vitamin D3 the birds need sun-lights(UV)...
If they are outdoor aviary then everything is OK.
But if the birds are in indoor then they need;
full-spectrum sun lamp
fish oil
cod-liver oil
fatty(oil type seeds) seeds:sunflower seeds,hempseed etc.
for calcium :
oil type seeds
greens:
spinach
dandelion(my favorite greens for birds)
broccoly
black cabbage
endive
chard
kale
parsley
celery
sesame and nuts
these are very important for the bird's egg-shell,for growth of chics(sun-lights),for indoor birds full-spectrum sun lamp,fish or cod-liver oil
batuhan
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:34 pm
by Sally
Haven't tried celery with my birds, will have to chop some up. What is black cabbage?
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:06 pm
by Domenic
Are there any other sources of D3? I don't see myself finding cod liver oil..

Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:12 pm
by B CAMP
You can get cod liver oil at Wallmart and walgreens
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:19 am
by CandoAviary
Batuhan, I like you no nonsense approach to diet
Good pointers. In this country folks go for the multiprocessed pelleted food that gaurantees total nutrition

Then again in this country they think a good meal is McDonalds

Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:32 am
by batuhan
Sally wrote:Haven't tried celery with my birds, will have to chop some up. What is black cabbage?
The black cabbage is fairly smiliar to Kale .
But kale is curly.
black cabbage's leaves are not not curly,it's leaves are plain/flat
batuhan
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:54 am
by batuhan
CandoAviary wrote:Batuhan, I like you no nonsense approach to diet
Good pointers. In this country folks go for the multiprocessed pelleted food that gaurantees total nutrition

Then again in this country they think a good meal is McDonalds

I have/had been keeping various kinds of birds for 30 years.
I have never seen a dead bird in my cage except the hatchlings..
you say :in your country folks go for the multiprocessed
PELLETED food that guarantees total nutrition
I am sorry but
I will say :please Do NOT send your birds for the multiprocessed pelleted food that guarantees total
DEATH.
follow the nature please as possible as you can.....
batuhan
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:58 pm
by CandoAviary
I agree

Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:10 am
by fabulousfinch
Domenic wrote:Are there any other sources of D3? I don't see myself finding cod liver oil..

Hi Domenic,
The best natural source of Vitamin D3 are animal proteins such as those found in egg yolk and meat meal. Whether you use a hardboiled egg or a commercial softfood that contains whole egg powder and/or meat meal, it is a very important part of your birds diet.
You should feed an eggfood of some kind on a daily basis during the breeding and molting season, and about twice a week during the resting season.
Hope that helps
Bill
http://www.FabulousFinch.com
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:03 am
by Domenic
Thanks Bill. I have been giving eggfood for a long time now, didn't know it contained D3.
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:04 pm
by batuhan
Hi All,
What foods contain vitamin D ? (for birds )
fish oil
cod liver-oil........: 1 tea-spoon : 400 IU
egg yolk.(boiled).: 1 Whole egg: 18.5 IU
egg yolk............: 1 egg-yolk : 2O-25 IU
Vitamin D only in yolk
some rafined cod liver oils has not vitamin D BECAUSE while its rafined vitamin D taken ...
batuhan
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:58 pm
by Ria
how do you feed cod liver oil to birds? Just put it in a dish, or mix it with food? I presume putting it on seed is not good, would probably turn the seed rancid? have never tried this before....
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:42 pm
by cindy
Sally wrote:Haven't tried celery with my birds, will have to chop some up. What is black cabbage?
If you use celery, de-rib it first. It chops easier and is easier for the birds to eat it. My vet told me if I gave our Gray celery always de-rib it first.
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:47 pm
by cindy
batuhan wrote:CandoAviary wrote:Batuhan, I like you no nonsense approach to diet
Good pointers. In this country folks go for the multiprocessed pelleted food that gaurantees total nutrition

Then again in this country they think a good meal is McDonalds

I have/had been keeping various kinds of birds for 30 years.
I have never seen a dead bird in my cage except the hatchlings..
you say :in your country folks go for the multiprocessed
PELLETED food that guarantees total nutrition
I am sorry but
I will say :please Do NOT send your birds for the multiprocessed pelleted food that guarantees total
DEATH.
follow the nature please as possible as you can.....
batuhan
My avain vet recommends pellets such as natural Zupreem and Roudybush since the pellets are pretty balanced nutrionally (some of the colored pellets, not all contain sugars). I use it along side of seed, it is ground and added to dried egg food and Miracle meal. I supplement with dried herbs and veggies. I have yet had a bird die from it, I've used Roudybush for years.
It is like dog food, the ingredients can be garbage or great.
Re: VitaminD3 - Sun - Calcium and Birds
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:15 pm
by JohnBoy
CandoAviary wrote:Batuhan, I like you no nonsense approach to diet
Good pointers. In this country folks go for the multiprocessed pelleted food that gaurantees total nutrition

Then again in this country they think a good meal is McDonalds

This is nonsense. Zoos use pelleted food.