Foot & mouth problems (zebra & gouldian)

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Foot & mouth problems (zebra & gouldian)

Post by arnoldus » Fri Jul 17, 2015 3:44 pm

I've noticed these problems:
Gouldian: feet look bad,
Zebra: beak looks bad

These birds are at least 4 years old (possibly older, but they have been here for 4 years).
None of my other birds (gouldian female and a dozen other zebra's) have these problems.

What is going on, and what can I do about it?

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Re: Foot & mouth problems (zebra & gouldian)

Post by Jen » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:49 pm

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Do you have these birds housed together in one flight? I had a Gouldian hen that had similar feet issues. She was with other birds but she was the only one that had these issues. She is fed the same diet as all others with her, looked and acted healthy, but looking back, this happened right before she started to molt. I don't know if the immune system is compromised making her more susceptible?? But it took a while to get rid of this stuff!!! Your birds being older could also be more susceptible. I treated her for mites using S76 and Scatt. You can go to LadyGouldian.com site and there is a lot of info there.

It is difficult to get rid of and it is contagious. So be sure to separate them and if they were with other birds, you need to treat them ALL along with the cage and perches. You can treat the beak of your Zebra also and you will find info at the same site about this.

After several treatments I resorted to my Louisiana "heritage" for additional help.....we use Vicks Vapor Rub for EVERYTHING.... :roll: I rubbed some on her feet every night and ..... no more mites...was it the Scatt/S76 that worked??? The combination???

Do NOT use Vicks on your Zebs beak. It works great for my sinus allergies but your poor Zeb won't be able to breath from the "vapor"!!! Don't know if you will find Vicks in Europe so you can substitute Vaseline to "suffocate" the mites.

Good luck and let us know how it works out!


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Re: Foot & mouth problems (zebra & gouldian)

Post by debbie276 » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:59 pm

Kinda looks like bumble foot to me, not scaley mites :?
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Re: Foot & mouth problems (zebra & gouldian)

Post by wildbird » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:16 pm

Looks like a foot injury to me. Are you using any sand covered perches?

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Re: Foot & mouth problems (zebra & gouldian)

Post by cindy » Fri Jul 17, 2015 10:43 pm

do not use Vicks on the birds, the menthol can be lethal. it should not be ingested.

ingredients in Vick Vapor Rub...
Eucalypt5.26% Camphor
2.82% Menthol
0.09% Thymol
1.33% Oils of Eucalyptus
0.69% Nutmeg
0.44% Cedar Leaf
4.68% Turpentine
100% Petrolatum q.s.

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Re: Foot & mouth problems (zebra & gouldian)

Post by cindy » Fri Jul 17, 2015 11:38 pm

ff feet gould.jpg
The area in front of the arrow looks like exposed bone. The dark areas look necrotic... some of the yellow like deposits look crystal like... might be avian gout.

The beak looks soft or indented in this area.. is it soft, if you push you nail gently on it does it leave a little dent?
beak issue.jpg
What do you feed your birds, give as supplements?

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Re: Foot & mouth problems (zebra & gouldian)

Post by arnoldus » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:14 am

cindy wrote:
ff feet gould.jpg
The area in front of the arrow looks like exposed bone. The dark areas look necrotic... some of the yellow like deposits look crystal like... might be avian gout.

The beak looks soft or indented in this area.. is it soft, if you push you nail gently on it does it leave a little dent?
beak issue.jpg
What do you feed your birds, give as supplements?
- They always have finch mix and egg/protein food available.
- The gouldians and zebra's are together in a flight. All the other look alright.
- I don't have sand perches. I have smooth wood rods of 8, 10 and 12mm, and plastic chains.
12 zebra finches
1 gouldian couple

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