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Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by vinaykumarbopp » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:12 am

I have a society pair which foster my gouldian eggs . When the hatchlings are 5 to 7 days old they die . The crop seems to be full. Last clutch out of 4 one survived this time out of five just 3 are there but still dont know what will happen to them they are still 1 week old . What could be the reason . Experts suggestions pls . I feed very gud finch mix and dry egg food from deli nature
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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by lovezebs » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:31 am

vinaykumarbopp

My first question would be,
Why are you not allowing your Gouldian parents to raise their own babies?
Gouldians are excellent parents,

Second question,
Are you aware that there are certain infections, that can be passed from Societies to Gouldians, which are fatal?

Please look up and read article:

Fostering-Lady Gouldian Finch Info
www.gouldianfinch.info > breeding>fos...

Also:
Fostering is not without problems- Laraine... - Laraine's Lady Gouldians
ladygouldian.com > Fostering-with-Societies

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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by vinaykumarbopp » Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:37 am

I have two chance to them last year they did not feed the chicks they threw them out . So I foster the eggs under societies now.

Societies are treated with ronivet , coccivet , scatt and antibiotics before allowing them to foster
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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by debbie276 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:38 am

I would read this article, your societies may be carriers. You have to treat the entire time the societies are feeding which is not good for the chick's.
https://ladygouldian.com/Fostering-with-Society-Finches
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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by lovezebs » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:07 pm

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My thinking as well.
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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by ac12 » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:15 pm

I suspect the societies are carriers of C&C.

You need to now keep the present societies separated from your birds (in a separate room), to minimize spreading C&C. Or better to give the societies away, to get them OUT of your house.
I do not know if the chicks that survived are now carriers of C&C, and if they will spread it.

Then replace them with a new set of societies.
Before you bring the new societies in, you need to REALLY CLEAN the cages that the societies were in and the food and water dish.
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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by wildbird » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:03 pm

When purchasing societies, how would you know if they have this disease, and can it be transmitted to other species if they are caged separately?

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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by lovezebs » Tue Nov 22, 2016 12:15 am

wildbird

That's the problem, you don't know.
The only way to make sure, is to buy Socies from a Gouldian breeder who breeds his or her own Societies, or you take your chances.
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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by vinaykumarbopp » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:43 pm

Hey thanks all for your input ...when I bought societies I quarantined them for about 2 months ..treated them for all diseases ..then I had made them to foster gouldian eggs . In India it is winter now . When is the good time to stop breeding of gouldians
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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by lovezebs » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:45 pm

vinaykumarbopp

Not sure about the breeding time for your Gouldians in India. It seems to work differently in different parts of the world.

In Australia, where they originate, they breed during the rainy season.

Regarding the Societies, if they are carriers of this disease, they would not be sick themselves, so treating them would be useless. Just trying to explain, what is most likely killing your young Gouldians off, but.... it's up to you.

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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by vinaykumarbopp » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:21 pm

Thanks lovezebs I got it ....next breeding season will give them more chance to raise their own young ones :-)
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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by lovezebs » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:28 pm

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Re: Gouldian chicks 6 to 7 days always die

Post by ac12 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:33 pm

wildbird wrote: When purchasing societies, how would you know if they have this disease, and can it be transmitted to other species if they are caged separately?
As was mentioned, you don't KNOW if the society is 'clean' from C&C or not.

There are only TWO ways that I know of to test if the societies are 'clean.'

#1 - Take the societies to a bird vet and have the vet check the birds and send samples to the lab to test for C&C.
Warning, the last time that I checked with a vet, the charge for the test was $100 PER BIRD !!!!

#2 - Have the societies raise a few gouldians hatchlings, in a segregated cage away from the flock. If the society raised chicks make it from hatchling to weaned juvenile, the societies are probably 'clean.'
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