Crop is enlarging pls help. Sour-impacted crop

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:19 am

hi handes
this is what i was saying in an earlier post that smaller birds dont need grit just oystershell as it is soliuable and breaks down whereas grit does not it is equal to us passing a kidney stone hopefully it may wash through in time it may cause the bird to suffer slightly but it may pass through hopefully..in future get rid of the grit and only feed oystershell,or mineralised grit and eggshell..as i previously posted finches dehusk thier seed before swallowing so there is no need for grit to help break down the seed as there is no hard coating to dispose of i do hope that it pulls through for you

ken

rottielover · Post by **rottielover** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:32 am

Has the medicine had no effect at all?

I did some more reading about crop issues...

If the medicine isn't helping I could only find 3 more methods...

1) Massage - work the crop in your fingers trying to GENTLY break up the impaction so that the bird can pass it.

2) "Crop Flush" - I have not been able to find this procedure described on a step by step basis, but it seems that some Vet's will use some type of liquid to flush out the crop of the bird. HIGH RISK as the bird could inhale and choke.

3) Surgery - HIGH RISK, involves cutting the crop open to remove the blockage.

That's about the extent of what I've been able to search for on the internet.

I wish you good luck with your bird, I hope s/he get's well soon!!!

handes · Post by **handes** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:25 pm

kenny wrote:hi handes
this is what i was saying in an earlier post that smaller birds dont need grit just oystershell as it is soliuable and breaks down whereas grit does not it is equal to us passing a kidney stone hopefully it may wash through in time it may cause the bird to suffer slightly but it may pass through hopefully..in future get rid of the grit and only feed oystershell,or mineralised grit and eggshell..as i previously posted finches dehusk thier seed before swallowing so there is no need for grit to help break down the seed as there is no hard coating to dispose of i do hope that it pulls through for you

ken

is it so? I have removed grit cup i was using witte molen grit but it has really big substances next time i will put only oyster shell mix and fine sand.
I didnt know that. Thank you

Hi rottielover,
i think medicine has slighty begun to effect,i am massaging and controlling her crop daily and one part of the crop looks folded and smaller.
She looks happier,i will continue giving medicine 2 two weeks.
But when she eats,she has a big bag of seeds.

rottielover · Post by **rottielover** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:39 pm

I should also point out that I'm in agreement with Kenny, I would remove all "grit" "sand" etc. anything that is insoluable (can't be dissolved).

Oystershell is good because it can be dissolved.

However, My too my way of thinking, I would suggest you remove all grit (even the oystershell) until the crop problem has been healed fully. Once the bird has fully recoverd you could offer some oystershell again, but I would not put any sand in at all.

I wish you good luck!!

FLAMEonfire · Post by **FLAMEonfire** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:04 pm

I had stopped following this post for a while and came back to check on your bird - I was so glad to see that she is making improvements!

Keep up the good work ---Yeaaaaaaaaaaaa

handes · Post by **handes** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:19 am

Thank you for all your consideration and kindness,all of you are so nice.
I removed the mineral cup completely.

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:55 am

hi handes
if her crop is full of seed then she is back to eating well...which can only do her good ...keep up the good work and keep us informed of any more developments

ken

handes · Post by **handes** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:11 am

Hi everybody,
Yesterday morning my poor bird suddenly fell ill and found her lying at the bottom of the cage. The day before she was a bit looking under-weather. I dont know what caused this and the crop was smalled but she was even unable to move and her eyes closed. After several hours she died silently. .
I am so sorrowful.
Thank you again for all your help.
I gonna miss my old nice lady.

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:27 am

hi handes
this i am afraid is the downside of keeping birds when we lose a treasured pet...the biggest drawback is that we have no idea of knowing the age of these birds when we get them so they could be well near retirement age when we buy them please do not let this put you off keeping them i have been through this many times but you never get used to it i am afraid!

ken

handes · Post by **handes** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:16 am

Thank you Mr. Ken,you're very kind.
We bought her at our town petshop 3 years ago,she could have many owners and many petshops. I dont know.

Post by **Sally** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:45 am

So sorry for your loss, handes. As ken said, it is always hard when we lose one of our pets. Unfortunately, finches don't have the long life spans of parrots, so we must say goodbye more times than we like. At least you had her for three years, so you have lots of good memories.

rottielover · Post by **rottielover** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:04 am

I'm sorry for your loss.

EmilyHurd · Post by **EmilyHurd** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:47 am

It is def. hard to lose a finch! I get attached to some more than others.... Sorry for your loss

handes · Post by **handes** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:09 am

Thank you dear Sally, rottielover and Emilyhurd. You were really helpful,she was happy during the treatment but maybe time has come to fly for her old body.
I wish a long long life for all of your birds.

kenny · Post by **kenny** » Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:43 am

well it just goes to show it happens to us all i lost one of my precious quail today..just died of old age i think as ther was nothing wrong with him to my knowledge

ken