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Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:03 pm
by lovezebs
haroun
Just for you....
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:45 am
by MisterGribs
You know, I have been thinking on this for some weeks.
The birds don't seem like they are truly blind. I believe that their eyelids have failed to separate during development. The birds may have a normal life if you were to bring them to a vet to have their eyelids separated.
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:13 pm
by haroun
MisterGribs
Good idea and have already think about it and u push mean encourage me to see a vet ive explain him the case and said if it is genetics there is no thing to do. Ok he 's a bovins vet i' ll see an avian vet tomorrow
Cases are
Completly blind no eyes
Partial blind with eyelied partial separated those can't see so far so they cant fly high more y'than few centimèters. But they havenatural life when i mixe them with other juvies two start to sing and try to mate even been tryin to put an hierarehy and chading other juvi males lol
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:22 pm
by haroun
lovezebs wrote:
haroun
Just for you....
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:35 pm
by haroun
From Roy 's ' It is unavoidable, but it has been reported that there are fewer incidence of blindness by pairing to Grays or Fawns rather than pairing two Fawn Cheeks.
lovezebs wrote:
haroun
Oh my goodness, I didn't realize that this was another clutch that have sight issues...
Definitely need to check into which mutations are not advisable to breed together. Roy Beckham, would be a good source (I believe he bred Zebras for many years, and some amazing looking birds).
i think i'm in the box of those few cases
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:09 pm
by lovezebs
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:43 am
by MisterGribs
haroun Oh that's great to hear that they're doing well despite being blind. It's amazing how living things can adapt to any situation.
Wow, no eyes completely... That's new to me!
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:44 am
by MisterGribs
Let us know what the avian vet has to say about the cases with non-separated eyelids, I'm curious
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:57 pm
by haroun
Flight Feathers concerning
http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=38609
a new case here , the hen gc/bc is not from my flocks, dad is BC/cfw
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:13 am
by MariusStegmann
haroun I had exactly the same issue. Waterbags over where the eyes should be. Eventually I found out that this happens if you have Fawn Cheeks in the birds ancestry. This is the reason I got rid of all my zebras. I destroyed all the blind chicks, because it seemed too cruel to keep blind birds.
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:10 am
by Gracie85
When a bird is carrying such a seriously bad gene, you should not only not breed it to the mate that also carries that bad gene, so that you don't get the blind babies, you should pull both birds from breeding completely!
By continuing to breed it with "safe" mates, you may not get the blind offspring, but you are spreading that blindness gene throughout your birds (50% chance it is passed on in each offspring) and throughout anyone else's birds who takes and breeds one of your offspring carrying this hidden gene. As it is spread and multiplied, it is going to start showing up more and more often, and in other mutations that were previously safe and free from this gene. A bird that shows it is carrying a seriously defective gene should not be bred.
Re: Completly stucked! How hell in world this could happenin
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:05 pm
by Flight Feathers
Hope it’s going to be okay... why does it have water bags over the eyes?