Separate zebra finch pair- Stress?

[Flight Feathers]

So recessive must be shown in both parents? So for instance I bred my normal pied with a normal and because my female was split for pied they had a fawn pied baby. So does this make my fawn also split for pied ?? Because when I bred normal pied with fawn I got normal pieds. And does it go opposites or something because... Normal pied with...

Fawn female = normal pied ( 2 clutches both had 1 normal pied in each )

Normal female = fawn pied

Was this just random or this how the genes for pied actually work? So if I continued breeding him to a normal I'll get more fawn pieds and no normal pieds? But if I continued breeding to fawn id get more normal pieds and no fawn pieds ? Yet he'd still carry both genes of course but I just get dif results when pairing to dif colors.

[Flight Feathers]

So male outcomes for black face male and fawn hen would be black face split to fawn males? Would there be any fawn males?

[haroun]

And normal females cannot carry a sex linked gene, correct?

can not be split for a sex linked , but if she's mutant so she carries the gene

[haroun]

So if you breed a normal gray pied or normal gray male to normal gray female and you get fawns and CFWs these will all come from the males genes?

correct

[haroun]

So if you breed a normal gray pied or normal gray male to normal gray female and you get fawns and CFWs these will all come from the males genes?

Which means the fawns and CFW would have to be female?
I Know someone who had this result- she had 3 fawns and 1 CFW form a normal pied male and normal female, only one fawn was a male- how does this work?

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impossible to get a fawn male from that mates, does she breed her brids in common aviary ?

[haroun]

So if you breed a normal gray pied or normal gray male to normal gray female and you get fawns and CFWs these will all come from the males genes?

Which means the fawns and CFW would have to be female?
I Know someone who had this result- she had 3 fawns and 1 CFW form a normal pied male and normal female, only one fawn was a male- how does this work?

correct

If her mate is a normal gray and she is white then you should be able to get both normal grays and whites as both mutations are dominant, am I correct?

Wrong
Grey is wild type and considred as dominante
White is recessive, to be shown needs both parents to be at least split for white
And i'm telling this for pure white, not about those whites offsprings of over brooded pieds .

Ohh now I get it so that's why I get whites- cuz my fawn is split to white. Yet I breed my white with a normal and I get a normal. Makes sense now!

yes, and all of them are split for white

[Flight Feathers]

So if you breed a normal gray pied or normal gray male to normal gray female and you get fawns and CFWs these will all come from the males genes?

Which means the fawns and CFW would have to be female?
I Know someone who had this result- she had 3 fawns and 1 CFW form a normal pied male and normal female, only one fawn was a male- how does this work?

.
impossible to get a fawn male from that mates, does she breed her brids in common aviary ?

That is what I thought. She has heaps of zebra finches in an aviairy so would be easy for one to lay an egg in another's nest and I think they do go in each other's nest sometimes.

[Flight Feathers]

So recessive must be shown in both parents? So for instance I bred my normal pied with a normal and because my female was split for pied they had a fawn pied baby. So does this make my fawn also split for pied ?? Because when I bred normal pied with fawn I got normal pieds. And does it go opposites or something because... Normal pied with...

Fawn female = normal pied ( 2 clutches both had 1 normal pied in each )

Normal female = fawn pied

Was this just random or this how the genes for pied actually work? So if I continued breeding him to a normal I'll get more fawn pieds and no normal pieds? But if I continued breeding to fawn id get more normal pieds and no fawn pieds ? Yet he'd still carry both genes of course but I just get dif results when pairing to dif colors.

@haroun ?

[haroun]

So recessive must be shown in both parents? So for instance I bred my normal pied with a normal and because my female was split for pied they had a fawn pied baby. So does this make my fawn also split for pied ?? Because when I bred normal pied with fawn I got normal pieds. And does it go opposites or something because... Normal pied with...

Fawn female = normal pied ( 2 clutches both had 1 normal pied in each )

Normal female = fawn pied

Was this just random or this how the genes for pied actually work? So if I continued breeding him to a normal I'll get more fawn pieds and no normal pieds? But if I continued breeding to fawn id get more normal pieds and no fawn pieds ? Yet he'd still carry both genes of course but I just get dif results when pairing to dif colors.

to be visible recessive mutation must be present with its to copy of the gene , so parents must be at least both split for that recessive .
yes your femle is split for pied and male is split for fawn
"And does it go opposites or something because... Normal pied with...

Fawn female = normal pied ( 2 clutches both had 1 normal pied in each ) " males and femeles pied split for fawn

Normal female = fawn pied " all hens

no pied is recessive and doesn't matter about the sex , and results that u obtained are rondom but are always respecting the inheritance rules .
for exemple whe we say that if u breed /fawn male to fawn hen
you will get 50% chance to get fawn hen and 50% normal hen ,this is valid for a lot of 100 eggs laid and all have hatch. you can have the result at the first attepmt as you can have it in the next season

[haroun]

So male outcomes for black face male and fawn hen would be black face split to fawn males? Would there be any fawn males?

you have 50% bf /fawn and 50% grey /faw
all split for fawn because only hen is fawn . mated with this female and if any u got bf fawn male ,grey fawn male , bf fawn hen , fawn hen here father is grey BF so it must split for fawn

[Flight Feathers]

Okay thanks!!

[Flight Feathers]

What about fawn pied male to female CFW?
Male CFW split to pied or fawn?? An female fawns split to pied?

[Flight Feathers]

So recessive must be shown in both parents? So for instance I bred my normal pied with a normal and because my female was split for pied they had a fawn pied baby. So does this make my fawn also split for pied ?? Because when I bred normal pied with fawn I got normal pieds. And does it go opposites or something because... Normal pied with...

Fawn female = normal pied ( 2 clutches both had 1 normal pied in each )

Normal female = fawn pied

Was this just random or this how the genes for pied actually work? So if I continued breeding him to a normal I'll get more fawn pieds and no normal pieds? But if I continued breeding to fawn id get more normal pieds and no fawn pieds ? Yet he'd still carry both genes of course but I just get dif results when pairing to dif colors.

to be visible recessive mutation must be present with its to copy of the gene , so parents must be at least both split for that recessive .
yes your femle is split for pied and male is split for fawn
"And does it go opposites or something because... Normal pied with...

Fawn female = normal pied ( 2 clutches both had 1 normal pied in each ) " males and femeles pied split for fawn

Normal female = fawn pied " all hens

no pied is recessive and doesn't matter about the sex , and results that u obtained are rondom but are always respecting the inheritance rules .
for exemple whe we say that if u breed /fawn male to fawn hen
you will get 50% chance to get fawn hen and 50% normal hen ,this is valid for a lot of 100 eggs laid and all have hatch. you can have the result at the first attepmt as you can have it in the next season

My female is split for pied or white? How do I get white babies if she is split to pied? Wouldn't she be split to white?

[Flight Feathers]

So recessive must be shown in both parents? So for instance I bred my normal pied with a normal and because my female was split for pied they had a fawn pied baby. So does this make my fawn also split for pied ?? Because when I bred normal pied with fawn I got normal pieds. And does it go opposites or something because... Normal pied with...

Fawn female = normal pied ( 2 clutches both had 1 normal pied in each )

Normal female = fawn pied

Was this just random or this how the genes for pied actually work? So if I continued breeding him to a normal I'll get more fawn pieds and no normal pieds? But if I continued breeding to fawn id get more normal pieds and no fawn pieds ? Yet he'd still carry both genes of course but I just get dif results when pairing to dif colors.

to be visible recessive mutation must be present with its to copy of the gene , so parents must be at least both split for that recessive .
yes your femle is split for pied and male is split for fawn
"And does it go opposites or something because... Normal pied with...

Fawn female = normal pied ( 2 clutches both had 1 normal pied in each ) " males and femeles pied split for fawn

Normal female = fawn pied " all hens

no pied is recessive and doesn't matter about the sex , and results that u obtained are rondom but are always respecting the inheritance rules .
for exemple whe we say that if u breed /fawn male to fawn hen
you will get 50% chance to get fawn hen and 50% normal hen ,this is valid for a lot of 100 eggs laid and all have hatch. you can have the result at the first attepmt as you can have it in the next season

My female is split for pied or white? How do I get white babies if she is split to pied? Wouldn't she be split to white?

Or is it because pied is recessive and white is also recessive so it carries it ??

[haroun]

So recessive must be shown in both parents? So for instance I bred my normal pied with a normal and because my female was split for pied they had a fawn pied baby. So does this make my fawn also split for pied ?? Because when I bred normal pied with fawn I got normal pieds. And does it go opposites or something because... Normal pied with...

Fawn female = normal pied ( 2 clutches both had 1 normal pied in each )

Normal female = fawn pied

Was this just random or this how the genes for pied actually work? So if I continued breeding him to a normal I'll get more fawn pieds and no normal pieds? But if I continued breeding to fawn id get more normal pieds and no fawn pieds ? Yet he'd still carry both genes of course but I just get dif results when pairing to dif colors.

to be visible recessive mutation must be present with its to copy of the gene , so parents must be at least both split for that recessive .
yes your femle is split for pied and male is split for fawn
"And does it go opposites or something because... Normal pied with...

Fawn female = normal pied ( 2 clutches both had 1 normal pied in each ) " males and femeles pied split for fawn

Normal female = fawn pied " all hens

no pied is recessive and doesn't matter about the sex , and results that u obtained are rondom but are always respecting the inheritance rules .
for exemple whe we say that if u breed /fawn male to fawn hen
you will get 50% chance to get fawn hen and 50% normal hen ,this is valid for a lot of 100 eggs laid and all have hatch. you can have the result at the first attepmt as you can have it in the next season

My female is split for pied or white? How do I get white babies if she is split to pied? Wouldn't she be split to white?

Or is it because pied is recessive and white is also recessive so it carries it ??[/quote]
that right a bird can carry lot bof recessive gene at same time for example a male /isa/bb/ob/YB