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Hi Everyone ,

Can calcium plus powder from morning bird mixed with water ?

vinay

directions directly fro morningbird.com

DIRECTIONS FOR USE:
Sprinkle one pinch on fruits, vegetables, soaked seed or moist food for a pair of Finches, one pinch per Parakeet, 2 pinches per Cockatiel, 4 pinches per African Grey Parrot, 8 pinches, (½ US tsp. or 2 ml), per large Macaw Parrot. Or, you may add 2 oz (57 grams) to 6 lbs (2.7 kg) of dry food. Feed once or twice per week to non-breeding birds and up to five times per week to breeding birds.

http://www.morningbirdproducts.com/prod ... owder.html

it says to use it dry...I would add it to grated boiled egg or chopped veggies. Sprinkling it on seed, the powder would fall through the seed and anything that sticks to hull is lost since the seed is hulled when eaten.

you can contact the manufacture and ask if it is water soluble, I imagine if it was they would state it in the directions.

they do make one that goes in the water, it is a liquid http://www.morningbirdproducts.com/prod ... mplus.html

Vinay, rather look for a liquid calcium to mix with water and use the powdered calcium on food as Cindy mentions above. Unless the powder is specifically water soluble, it won't mix well with the water and you just end up with clumps in the water and I'm not sure if you will then get the full affect of using it that way.

cindy@Rox thanks ....next time I will buy liquid one
Yes it is soluble in water , in the website of lady gouldian finch
It says 4 tea spoon per quart of water ( same instruction for liquid and powder )
So I asked the question . will try to give with egg food .
My gouldians two of the pairs suffers with egg binding all the time
I give them proper finch mix , I give them egg food. They have kept eggs like two times till now but they are egg bound both times

vinaykumarbopp wrote: cindy@Rox thanks ....next time I will buy liquid one
Yes it is soluble in water , in the website of lady gouldian finch
It says 4 tea spoon per quart of water ( same instruction for liquid and powder )
So I asked the question . will try to give with egg food .
My gouldians two of the pairs suffers with egg binding all the time
I give them proper finch mix , I give them egg food. They have kept eggs like two times till now but they are egg bound both times

just FYI this is not correct. The instructions for mixing in water are for the liquid form. However I do not see why the powder cannot be mixed. It is the same formulation. I don't know though. But assuming you can, you then would have to do some math to get the same concentration in water that you would end up with after using the water. Figure out how many milligrams of calcium are in a teaspoon in the liquid form vs the powder form, and that is what you are going to go by - the number of milligrams not teaspoons. I imagine the powder is much more concentrated. If I am correct in that, you will be damaging your birds' kidneys by forcing them to drink so much calcium in water.

Why not simply give them crushed egg shells? Its nature's way.
They will take what they need and there is little risk of overdose and organ damage.

As an addendum to the above posts:

Liquid calcium (like Calciboost) shouldn't be given every day. The instructions say, even in needy cases, to give it 5 times a week. Usually less times per week. I've read that this form of calcium is so easily absorbed that birds can lose their ability to absorb calcium from natural sources.

I agree with paul-inAZ, just provide crushed up eggshells.

Calciboost does also have vitamin D3. Without some source of D3, adding calcium won't help.

vinaykumarbopp wrote: Hi Everyone ,

Can calcium plus powder from morning bird mixed with water ?

vinay

I wrote to Morning Bird to ask this very thing and they said yes, that is how they make the liquid anyway!

>From: morningbird@morningbirdproducts.com
>Subject: Re: calcium plus powder
>Date: January 22, 2017 at 7:09:40 PM CST
>To: "me" <email removed>
>Reply-To: morningbird@morningbirdproducts.com
>
>Hi Paula -
>
>Yes. the calcium plus powder is completely dissolvable in water. This is
>how we make calcium plus liquid - just adding water to the powder.
>
>Regards -
>
>William Niven
>Morning Bird, Inc.
>President
>
>
>>Is the Calcium Plus powder soluble in water?
>>
>>Paula

I guess then you just figure out how many mg/l to dissolve in water to make the same concentration as you'd have after adding the liquid calcium, so I wonder why they don't include this info on the label?

thanks everyone

Word of caution: if you are using a good multivitamin/mineral supplement that contain D3 and calcium or a pelleted diet with your seed (most pellets contain calcium and D3) and you are using the extra calcium/D3 when breeding (to help prevent egg binding) use the calcium/D3 at half strength so not to over do Calcium and D3. too much of either of these is not good.... you can add the calcium D3 when the nest goes up and stop it when the last egg is laid.