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air sac mites?

Post by vslopes » Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:50 am

hi i got this female with babies and in the last few days i notice a grout on top of the beek looks like air sac mites i treat them with iverlux in september can i treat again with iverlux? if in fact is the air sac mites please help
i got 5 pairs and 3 of them got babies and the only one that shows this is this female they all in a large outdoor flight
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Re: air sac mites?

Post by debbie276 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:25 pm

Air sac mites are internal, you wouldn't see them unless you light up the birds throat. Pictures are not clear enough for me to say Scaley mites, which would be visable on beak and/or feet.
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Re: air sac mites?

Post by cindy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:42 pm

I agree...and the picture is to blurry to be able to tell you with any degree of certainty what it is. I suggest catching her up and clearly photographing the area and her legs close up.

Not ASM.... several things can cause build up around the top of the beak... scaly mites, upper respiratory with discharge build up from the nares. Growths, injury.

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Re: air sac mites?

Post by vslopes » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:56 pm

im having a hard time catching her but i will try tank you

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Re: air sac mites?

Post by vslopes » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:33 pm

i finally got her i can see blood on it
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it seems to be blood on it
it seems to be blood on it

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Re: air sac mites?

Post by debbie276 » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:39 pm

That looks nasty :(
I've no idea what that could be. Hopefully Cindy can help

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Re: air sac mites?

Post by cindy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:41 pm

I saved you larger close up and will send this off to get an opinion. does it look like in person it is coming from the nares/nostrils? Have you tried to wipe this off gently with a warm cloth or paper towel, if so did it appear to be dried blood clot?

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Post by cindy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:46 pm

if coming from the nares, can you clean her up and get a good picture after you have cleaned her, especially in the areas where the blood came from and clotted.

I would put her in a small cage for now until this is resolved.

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Re: air sac mites?

Post by vslopes » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:54 pm

well i put her back on the big flight the flight is 8 foot by 8 foot inclosed and 8 foot by 12 foot with 1/2 inch screen i been noticing that one of the females is atacking all the other females all over the flight i even place food on 5 different areas to make shore they all feed the babies and eat well can i take the female out they got 4 babies maybe 11 days old see looks very good and eats well but if i have to i will take her out i have a hard time catching my birds i had to get her very wet but if you recommend i will take her out

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Re: air sac mites?

Post by cindy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:02 pm

there is something more going on..you need to pull her and keep her separate... look at the areas I pointed out with arrows... it extends as a bubble under the skin from the eye to beak... might be sinus.

If either infection or mite related or injury related you need to find out what it is first... will send the picture off with the arrows and see what is recommended
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Re: air sac mites?

Post by cindy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:05 pm

the swollen area, can you see under the feathers, is the swelling under the skin or is there a wound?

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Re: air sac mites?

Post by vslopes » Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:33 pm

i'm going to try catch her her and place her in a cage

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Re: air sac mites?

Post by vslopes » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:20 pm

ok i got the hen on a a cage and i try to clean the area but looks like the grout in there before the blood
im sending some pics but im having a difficult time getting her to relax im going to live her alone for the rest of the day she is going crazy trying to get out looking for her mate and the babies
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Re: air sac mites?

Post by cindy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:25 pm

we really need to see close up, let her rest for a bit and then get a couple close up of the area.

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Re: air sac mites?

Post by cindy » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:26 pm

any cracks or wounds on the beak? Wound on the swollen area I indicated with the arrows?

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