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Need quarantine schedule!!!!!!!!

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:06 pm
by SamFoy
Hey guys~
I need a day to day and what meds to run my new finches through for the next 4 weeks. I lost my schedule and hope someone can help.
Sam

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 5:43 am
by poohbear
Sounds too complicated for words...I just house seperately and keep my eye on them.I don't medicate unless they need it.Just gradually adapt their diet to the one I use.
Paul.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:58 am
by L in Ontario
Ditto what Poohbear said. I do the same here with my newbies.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:39 pm
by Sally
I do the same as Paul and Liz, except I do administer Scatt to each new bird, plus I put a wormer in the water. To me, the most important thing is that they are drinking and eating enough.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:50 pm
by L in Ontario
I too administer Scatt to all my new finches and then again 21 days later and then they're on a 3 month preventive maintenance schedule for Scatt. Otherwise good finch seed and millet spray is appreciated by them along with fresh water every day.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:53 pm
by SamFoy
Why wouldn't you medicate new birds if nothing else than to kill any deseases the previous owner might have had? I agree that if all is well why use meds, but why quarantine then. Scatt and AIL do wonders to start with, do we stop there while we have them in a cage?

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:15 pm
by poohbear
What do you treat them for then...everything? Quarantine is to observe the birds and see if any problem or illness shows itself after the stress of moving.The use of a mite deterrent I can understand but to administer medicines or probiotics without proof of illness....why? Vitamin supplement maybe.
Paul.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:09 pm
by L in Ontario
The quarantine period is to protect your current birds just in case the newbie is carrying any mites or disease; and also allows the new bird to settle in quietly. The Scatt is a cure/deterrent of ASM as you sure don't want to take the risk of the bird passing it on to the rest of your flock. This period is an observation time of the new bird too as mentioned.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:00 pm
by mickp
have to agree, quarantine new birds - I usually make it 4 weeks. only medicate when necessary.

Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:03 pm
by Sally
Some people give a general antibiotic to new birds, just in case they have a disease, but without knowing what they might have, to me that is like shooting a shotgun into the air hoping to hit something. I personally don't like to use any more medications than I have to. I figure the meds I have to take for myself have tons of side effects, and I'll bet the bird meds are the same, so why stress my birds unnecessarily. If the bird gets runny poop, how do you know if it is from a disease or if the meds are causing it. Better to just observe the bird. And when you mentioned AIL, I forgot about that. That is a good all-around insect controller in your birdroom or aviary.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:51 am
by SamFoy
Then AIL and Scatt it is to start with. Then observe for any problems and medicate. I like this better. I do have to say that I was taught that it is like moving to a third world country and getting all those shots to protect against any dreaded disease.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:49 am
by hfentj
SamFoy wrote:Then AIL and Scatt it is to start with. Then observe for any problems and medicate. I like this better. I do have to say that I was taught that it is like moving to a third world country and getting all those shots to protect against any dreaded disease.
Question, what is AIL? Thxs

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:57 pm
by SamFoy
AIL is a product that kills mites and ants. I spray my new birds with this first thing before I even the cage into the quarantine area. Avian Insect Liquidator seems to work well even on chicks if needed. I don't know if AIL works in conjuntion with Skatt though.

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:19 pm
by hfentj
Thanks for the information, always interested in learning about products that will be helpfull and safe for my birds.





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Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:17 am
by jamezyboo21
I just give my quarantines fresh food and water daily with a cuttle bone and millet, and if they look ill i give the antibiotics, but luckily i haven't had an ill finch ever since i started at the beginning of the year except for a gould i got from a pet shop that had an ear infection which has gone away.