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Owl is Eggbound...

Post by GouldieFledge » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:35 am

I believe my girl is eggbound as we speak :( I'm devastated. She's been looking ill all morning, staggering around the cage, staying on the floor...it looks like there is probably an egg lookin to come out.

I think she is in a lot of pain. I don't have liquid calcium, of course. So the only thing I've done is submerge her rump in warm water twice and try to get her to pick at eggshell/cuttlebone. We've still produced nothing, and its been about 2 hours.

Help :( :( :(

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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by GouldieFledge » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:36 am

lovezebs mistergribs sally babs

I'll take any suggestions, though I'm pretty sure there is nothing I can do for her but watch her suffer

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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by lovezebs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:41 am

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Crap! Is her bum bulging out? Can you feel an egg in there?
Put heat on her.
Do you have people calcium pills.
I would disolve one in warm water, and offer a bit of the mix to the side of her beak.
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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by lovezebs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:48 am

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"Place the bird into a steamy room, such as bathroom with shower on until the bathroom mirrors and windows steam up. Desired temperature: 85-90 degrees Fahrenheit / Humidity: 60%. Place bird on wet towel. The warmth relaxes the hen so that the vent can dilate more allowing the egg to pass.

A warm water bath can also be of great help (shallow water, of course, you don't want to drown the hen). This relaxes her muscles and often the hen will pass the egg into the water. Make the water as warm as you would like to take a long soak in.

Massage the muscles in that area with olive oil. In many cases, this lead to a successful passing of the egg. Note: there is a risk associated with messaging this area. It could cause the egg inside to break - which is life-threatening. Be very careful! If in doubt, it's always best to have the vet take care of it ..."
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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by lovezebs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:51 am

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Treatment for Eggbinding
Finches succumb quickly to egg binding and urgent action is necessary. When handling an egg bound hen, extreme care should be taken to avoid rupturing the egg passage which can lead to egg peritonitis. The bird must be immediately given warmth. She should be placed in a hospital cage with a constant temperature of 79-85 degrees Fahrenheit until egg has been passed. If a hospital cage is not available, a 100 watt light may be placed inside a cage and the cage wrapped with plastic or cloth. During this period, the hen should be kept quiet and provided with an increase in humidity. This humidity can be created by placing a flat dish of water close to where the hen is being housed.
It will also help to increase the calcium intake of the hen. This may be done by placing several drops of calcium into the drinking water, or one drop to the beak. I found that Calcium Plus works great for this application. An immediate increase in calcium will do nothing to harden the shell of an already formed egg but will do wonders in improving the muscle action needed to expel the egg. Vitalize can also be administered to keep energy reserves up while the bird works at passing the egg.
To assist with the passage of the egg, gently massage with a vegetable oil, the area where you feel the egg. If not laid within one hour, catch the bird again and gently try to massage the egg out. You will have little to lose by drastic measures since the egg must come out or the bird will soon die. Egg-bound hens that recover should be given antibiotics for a few days. It is dangerous to attempt to breed this hen again until the nutritional deficiencies have been addressed.
Always keep in mind that egg binding is a symptom, not a disease. It is a symptom of extreme malnutrition. Breeders who feed only grains, greens, cuttlebone, eggshell and water will invariably find their birds do have egg binding problems.
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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by GouldieFledge » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:59 am

yeah her bum looks weird. i have people calcium, i'll def try that


she is breaking my heart!

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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by lovezebs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:03 am

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https://youtu.be/akXPEd5Fztc

Watch this video.
If she cant pass the egg, she will die.
Sit her over steam.
Rub a bit of oil on and around her vent

Put heat on her! To prevent shock and help her relax.
Don't freak out.
Do what you have to do NOW!!
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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by lovezebs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:04 am

Be very careful and very gentle.

If the egg breaks, she will not make it.
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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by lovezebs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:16 am

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From an old post by Cindy

Human grade Liquid Calcium with D3 for egg binding. Given to the bird at the side of the beak, heat for warmth suggested

1 drop first hour

1 drop second hour (noticed an improvement)

Then 1 drop 3rd hour.

Then give 2 drop 2hrs later at least get 3/4 drops into the bird first day if you can.

view topic: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19782&hilit=liquid+calcium&start=60

Morning Bird Products

Liquid Calcium for birds http://www.morningbirdproducts.com/prod ... mplus.html

http://www.morningbirdproducts.com/distributors.html

Liquid calcium (w/D3) is important to have if you breed birds
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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by GouldieFledge » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:46 am

she is definitely gonna die. the egg is broken inside

she just eliminated yolk

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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by MisterGribs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:48 am

Don't give up just yet, maybe the shell will pass as well.

Definitely administer the mouth drops, and keep her vent lubricated. If you are feeling brave, it couldn't hurt to actually insert a small amount of oil with a syringe directly into the cloaca.
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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by GouldieFledge » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:52 am

yeah the shell came out, though I don't know if it's all of it...she's still pushing.

I've had her vent lubed wtih KY jelly...I'm making a boiled egg now because she hasn't eaten anything

Still trying to administer the liquified calcium pills to beak

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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by GouldieFledge » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:39 am

Poor thing is still hangin on. Not sure how much longer she's gonna suffer.

I currently have her wrapped in paper towel and tissue, sitting in a shallow bowl in the steam-filled bathroom. I'm assuming it's better to leave her be than bring her back up to her mate, who will probably just agitate her.

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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by MisterGribs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:42 am

I hope she'll be ok! Fingers crossed.
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Re: Owl is Eggbound...

Post by lovezebs » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:42 pm

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Put her under a warm light sweetie and keep comfortable.

Offer some spray millet and water, where she can reach it. Do you have any Pedialyte available?

If not, then make some of Sally 's brew.
http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18044

You can stop the calcium now, if the egg has passed.
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