BREEDING yx
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Pococok
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BREEDING yx
It is ok to pair my zebra finches with different mutations like chesnut x fawn? Or it needs to be just chesnut x chesnut or fawn x fawn? Sorry newbie thank you.
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Icearstorm
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Re: BREEDING yx
Pococok
You can pair them with different mutations, but if you are breeding for a specific mutation, note that normal is dominant to most colors. If you breed a normal bird to a fawn one, for example, all offspring will come out normal if your normal parent is homogeneous/ has two normal alleles (manifestations of a gene) for normal. You will want to pair a chestnut bird to another chestnut, or a fawn, or a normal bird that is heterogeneous/ split to fawn or chestnut to get more chestnuts. You will also want to pair a fawn to another fawn or a chestnut split to fawn or a normal split to fawn to get some fawn babies. This is for society finches; zebra finches may have different inheritance patterns.
You will not know if a bird is heterogeneous/ split without a pedegree, genetic map, or test breed unless the allele it is split to is codominant or incompletely dominant to the other gene. I hope I didn't use too much jargon...
Some examples
Allele: fawn, chestnut, normal, etc. for colors
Heterogeneous/split: Bird is normal with a hidden (recessive) chestnut gene
Homogeneous: Bird has two normal alleles for color; all its babies will probably be normal colored
Dominance: A society finch that is homogeneous normal (dominant allele) is bred to a fawn (recessive allele) bird. All the babies are normal split to fawn. If the babies are bred together (please don't do this), 75% of offspring will be normal (50% will be split and 25% will be homogeneous for normal) and 25% will be fawn (all of them will be homogeneous for fawn).
You can pair them with different mutations, but if you are breeding for a specific mutation, note that normal is dominant to most colors. If you breed a normal bird to a fawn one, for example, all offspring will come out normal if your normal parent is homogeneous/ has two normal alleles (manifestations of a gene) for normal. You will want to pair a chestnut bird to another chestnut, or a fawn, or a normal bird that is heterogeneous/ split to fawn or chestnut to get more chestnuts. You will also want to pair a fawn to another fawn or a chestnut split to fawn or a normal split to fawn to get some fawn babies. This is for society finches; zebra finches may have different inheritance patterns.
You will not know if a bird is heterogeneous/ split without a pedegree, genetic map, or test breed unless the allele it is split to is codominant or incompletely dominant to the other gene. I hope I didn't use too much jargon...
Some examples
Allele: fawn, chestnut, normal, etc. for colors
Heterogeneous/split: Bird is normal with a hidden (recessive) chestnut gene
Homogeneous: Bird has two normal alleles for color; all its babies will probably be normal colored
Dominance: A society finch that is homogeneous normal (dominant allele) is bred to a fawn (recessive allele) bird. All the babies are normal split to fawn. If the babies are bred together (please don't do this), 75% of offspring will be normal (50% will be split and 25% will be homogeneous for normal) and 25% will be fawn (all of them will be homogeneous for fawn).
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Pococok
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Re: BREEDING yx
Icearstorm
Master, your reply is very useful to me as a newbie. I can use this information as i start breeding my zebra finches. Thank you
Master, your reply is very useful to me as a newbie. I can use this information as i start breeding my zebra finches. Thank you
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Icearstorm
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Re: BREEDING yx
Pococok
You're welcome! The learning curve is quite steep, but after a bit of research, you should get the hang of it. I'm currently breeding my first society finches, so I still have many years to go before I can call myself a master
You're welcome! The learning curve is quite steep, but after a bit of research, you should get the hang of it. I'm currently breeding my first society finches, so I still have many years to go before I can call myself a master
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haroun
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Re: BREEDING yx
hi Icearstorm@Pococok
excuse me but i cant follow some one is talking about Zebra an other one is explaining for society
it's not the same
yfor zebra you can breed any color you want except for the dominant mutation wich can not breed together
pastel x pastel lethal
blackface x balckface lethal
Crestx crest double crest may be not lethal
Cheecked x cheecked chick's blindess http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php ... 9&start=15
other mutations like
Light Back, CFW and fawn are sexlinked
THE rest are recessive such as white, pied , euroisabel, OB,BB, YB,BC etc ..
Florida fancy is co -dominante
more explanation here very good website
http://www.efinch.com/varieties.htm
excuse me but i cant follow some one is talking about Zebra an other one is explaining for society
it's not the same
yfor zebra you can breed any color you want except for the dominant mutation wich can not breed together
pastel x pastel lethal
blackface x balckface lethal
Crestx crest double crest may be not lethal
Cheecked x cheecked chick's blindess http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php ... 9&start=15
other mutations like
Light Back, CFW and fawn are sexlinked
THE rest are recessive such as white, pied , euroisabel, OB,BB, YB,BC etc ..
Florida fancy is co -dominante
more explanation here very good website
http://www.efinch.com/varieties.htm
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Icearstorm
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Re: BREEDING yx
haroun
Sorry about that. I'm not familiar with most zebra mutations, and was trying to explain some basic inheritance patterns using society finches. I should have said that earlier... I also should have realized that zebras also have fatal/harmful combinations and discouraged pairing rules, similar to "don't breed blue to blue" in gouldians (not a large gene pool of blue birds) and "don't breed frilled to frilled" in canaries (results in poor quality feathers). Thank you for correcting me.
Sorry about that. I'm not familiar with most zebra mutations, and was trying to explain some basic inheritance patterns using society finches. I should have said that earlier... I also should have realized that zebras also have fatal/harmful combinations and discouraged pairing rules, similar to "don't breed blue to blue" in gouldians (not a large gene pool of blue birds) and "don't breed frilled to frilled" in canaries (results in poor quality feathers). Thank you for correcting me.