My new nest box design - REALLY WORKS (with pics)

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My new nest box design - REALLY WORKS (with pics)

Post by williep » Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:25 am

I don't know if everybody was following my post on the Zebras in quarantine that started breeding, but here is the full story behind my nest box design. I thought I'd share it with everyone since I learned so much on this forum.

Basically I was getting really upset with the low quality wooden nest boxes they sell around here. I have to replace them every season and they are extremely difficult to clean and disinfect. I walked on a building site one day and got inspired to construct nest boxes out of the PVC plumbing fittings I saw lying around on the site.

Here's how it works:

1. For the body I use 4-1/4" PVC pipe, this is a bit narrower than the 5" wooden nest box but I compensate for this by increasing the hight/depht of the nest box.

2. I then cut the pipe in 6-1/2" pieces using an ordinary hacksaw. I used a smaller piece of PVC pipe which I cut open and marked a circle cut-line with a pencil.

3. At this point you decide if you want a half open nest box or a hole entry type box.

4. For the hole entry type box you glue a 4-1/4" female end cap to one side of the PVC pipe.

5. For the half open nest box you cut the one female end cap in half using a hack saw and glue that to the PVC pipe, the other half remains open. Like this:
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The glued piece viewed from the top
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6. After the glue has dried you can then start drilling the holes, I used a circular hole saw for the hole entry type box and a normal 3/8" drill for the perch

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7. Most of the nest box comes apart for easy cleaning and to disinfect them

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8. For my breeding cages I add a hook by drilling a small hole, the piece sticking out at the bottom of the hook I cut with pliers to prevent birds from injuring themselves when entering the nest

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9. Here is an example of how I used the half open nest box in my breeding cage.

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I hope this helps some of you out there, I'm really happy with the way the nest boxes work and they are really easy and cheap to make. Good luck

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Post by FeatherHarp » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:46 am

Wow.....great pictures and instructions!!! I will print this post out and show it to my Hubby.....like he needs more projects to do around the house....haha! :P

It really helps to have pictures along with the instructions to see what the end result will be.

What I can see of your yard looks so nice and tropical....wish I was there!! :wink: Minnesota is more "arctic" right now...sigh! :?

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Post by L in Ontario » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:57 am

Bravo! That's really thinking outside the (nest)box!! Good for you.

I agree about the cheaply made (but expensive) wooden nestboxes and will print your pics/instructions and try to get my hubby to make a few of these to try with my finches!

Thank you so much for sharing your project with us. :D
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Post by Sally » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:02 am

Great idea, and wonderful instructions w/pics! This should probably be made a sticky.

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Post by williep » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:20 am

Thank you all for your comments

FH, luckily the Southern Hemisphere is just at summers end so everything looks green, as for artic conditions, that will be really funny, we don't get snow here at least not the last 5000 years or so that I know off. :wink:

I'm still playing around with fixing the nest boxes to the walls of my large aviary but as far as the half open boxes in the breeding cage, they work great.

I'm not too sure if they would work for Gouldians though and maybe here some of you can share some thoughts. According to me the gouldians need quite a dark nest and the PVC nest let a fair amount of light in. This is great for the Zebras and other "light needy finches".

Sally, who decides on making something a sticky? I have already tried to contact Crystal to possibly include it on the FIC website but I see her last post was in Aug07, any idea where she is?

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Post by Sally » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:30 am

I believe Crystal is unavailable for right now, I hope she gets involved with the forum again. I'm sure Hilary could make it a sticky, since she is a moderator--she's on vacation, so she will probably do that when she has a moment.

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Post by beccafigs » Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:11 pm

That is a wonderful idea. I think I will use your design next time I allow my birds to breed. Thank you for sharing it! :)

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Post by Laura » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:27 pm

Very nice and intelligent! Love it.
I'm a hamster freak and I'm loving it! Currently loving 3 hammies.

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Post by williep » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:33 am

Tx Sally we'll leave it up to the experts then.

What are your thoughts of the nest being too light for gouldians? I've never bread them so I don't really know?

Any one out thee have any ideas or comments to improve the design?

I'm always open for suggestions. The one draw-back I came across with the hole entry type is actually fixing it to my aviary. I’m sure on a wire cage a hook will also work but how about a wall or something solid?

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Post by Sally » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:36 pm

My Gouldians like that porch-style nestbox, and it's probably because it is very dark in the back of it. Why couldn't you paint the PVC on the outside with a black or dark brown paint to cut the light?

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Post by Hope » Wed Mar 19, 2008 5:18 pm

Very clever idea :idea:

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Post by williep » Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:13 am

I also provided the porch style nest box to my Goulds (not that anything has happened yet), but I think painting it might work, or alternatively just wrapping it with a black plastic bag? The nest will still breathe through the entrance hole.

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Post by Davey » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:51 pm

Well, don't take this the wrong way. It is not an attack, just a little tidbit.
I have read too many times about the links between PVC and certain forms of cancer in humans. I don't know that it would effect birds the same way, but I for one would not risk it.
As a plumber, I work with PVC on a daily basis. A lot of the materials we use now have labels that read "This product conatins agents know by the state of California to cause cancer".
I think the design of the of the nest is awesome. I just wont be trying it with my birds. I am sure the pipe can be bought in more than just PVC, but when you are looking for other materials, you are also going up in price.
For those wanting the same nest, but darker, there is ABS (a black pipe similar to PVC, but I believe it is a petroleum product.) I haven't read anything about ABS and its potential for harm. I am not saying it is any better than PVC, just that I haven't heard as much about it. I would research ABS before using it. I am just pointing out another option.

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Post by mickp » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:03 am

brilliant nest idea willie. will be copying it myself for next breeding season.
with the gouldians I wouldnt be to worried about the darkness of the nest, I have had them breed in plastic milk bottles with good results, only thing I have found is to give them a choice of 3 or 4 possible nests and once they have chosen try to keep away from the nest. although my gouldians are now so used to me being in the aviary that I am able to inspect their nests every few days.

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Post by williep » Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:51 am

Davey, thanks for the update. Once again it is the purpose of this forum is so everyone can make informed decisions and then make up their own minds.

As for me, I will continue to use the PVC but will investigate an alternative material. I take great care in disinfecting the nest boxes before prividing it to my birds. For me the risk of bacterial infection is far, far greater when using wooden and wicker type nest boxes. I have lost endless birds to bacterial infections and that is why i moved to the alternative. The FIC is full of warnings about the imposiblity to disifect wood.

As for the ABS, i use ABS sheets in my breeding cages to catch bird droppings, I love the material and is very easy to clean and disinfect.

Edit: So I done some research on the whole PVC thing. According the articles I found, it refers to the toxic softening agent in group of chemicals called phthalates, these are used in, amongst others, soft toys and some other flexible material such as plastic bags, insulation for copper wiring ect. These phthalates are then toxic when consumed.

The nest boxes are constructed from hard PVC and do not contain the harmful softening agent. I must admit that the process of producing PVC is very harmful to the environment and releases toxins into the air which can cause cancer and liver damage and so on, hence the drive by many governments to reduce the amount of PVC production, it is also impossible to recycle, UNLESS you use it for nest boxes. So my birds and I are also doing our bit to save the environment!! Eat your heart out Mr Al Gore :wink:

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