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Shaft tail finch aggression

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:16 am
by athens.asad
Hello ,
Can 2 shaft tail male be kept with one female . I heard they become aggressive . Will the pair bully the left out male?

Thanks

Re: Shaft tail finch aggression

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:30 am
by Stuart whiting
athens.asad

Think of it when you was a teenager, two boys fighting over one girl :mrgreen:

Personally mate I really wouldn't advise it, I'd separate one of the cock birds and don't worry because the separated bird will be fine on his own :D

Re: Shaft tail finch aggression

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 9:02 am
by cindy
no.... Shaft tails can be very aggressive especially when it come to a dominant male protecting his mate/female and territory, even in a colony situation and you plan to breed do so single pair to a cage...find an hen for you lone male

Re: Shaft tail finch aggression

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:18 am
by athens.asad
Thanks Stuart & Cindy..if I keep 3 pairs of shaft tail in a sufficient size cage.I heard zebra do well with even number of pairs ,so no one pair is bullying.
Also I would be interested to know what are the possible outcomes of different mutations breeding in shaft tails e.g wild & creamino or fawn and Isabelle etc !

Thanks

Re: Shaft tail finch aggression

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:02 am
by Stuart whiting
athens.asad

Hi mate,

It doesn't mater if you've got 1 pair of shaft tails or zebras or 10 pairs of the birds, they are still well known for bickering amongst one another and I'd still definitely watch em and be ready to separate if need be,

In truth it pays to have spare cages for this this very reason,

It's like a play ground of 50 children, you can't possibly expect every child to play nicely as you always get one that wants to cause trouble :mrgreen:

Incidentally you mention about the outcome of particular mutations, not really sure what you mean by this,

You'll only ever produce mutation or mutation carriers if at least one of the parent birds you've got is a mutation, if your birds are all normal then you'll breed all normal :mrgreen:

Re: Shaft tail finch aggression

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:02 am
by cindy
Fawn and creamino are sex linked...male can be visual or split to it... hens have to be visual and paired with a split or visual to the sex linked mutation to give you both male and female offspring showing a sexlinked mutation.

The rest of the mutations are recessive and you need either splits or visually to create young of both sexes....

Working towards specific mutations are best done under controlled situations...

I have been raising shaft tail and zebras for a long time..pairing zebras to breed in a even pair caged situation does not work... individual cage breed your zebras.

Both species are often relentless in chasing, bullying and inflicting physical harm on another bird.

Re: Shaft tail finch aggression

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:59 am
by athens.asad
Thanks Stuart ,
Cindy- Not sure if I understood correctly , Do you mean I need to have a creamino male and a creamino female to give birth to a creamino child. What will be the outcome of a wild and creamino bird .Do they breed ! Will they have fertile eggs. I am asking this because you have experience in breeding mutations .Also any article regarding this would be of great help! thanks again.

Re: Shaft tail finch aggression

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:21 pm
by cindy
it is sex linked... example for fawn

you need a split to or visual fawn male and a visual fawn hen to get both sex offspring that are visual fawn

if you only have a split to or visual fawn male and the hen is normal you will only get visual fawn hens and split to fawn males

if you only have a visual fawn hen and a normal not split to male you will only get split to fawn male, hens will be normal


hens must be visual since they can not be split to a sex linked mutation