Influencing the chance for gouldian female chicks

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Influencing the chance for gouldian female chicks

Post by paddywack » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:57 pm

Hi there,

Is there a way to influence clutch composition to select for females? Here in Minnesota we are in the middle of a no female gouldian crisis. I have been to 4 bird fairs, and female gouldians are almost non-existent. Prices are higher on females because the breeders know they are hard to find. One breeder suggested trying a black light, but she had not actually had any experience with that yet. Anyone have suggestions on how to breed for more females?
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Re: Influencing the chance for gouldian female chicks

Post by ac12 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:14 pm

From what I have read, availability of food is important.
If there isn't enough food, the hen will produce more males than females.
The problem with food is, WHAT food?
We don't know what food the hen is triggering on. So it ends up being a shotgun approach where you have to provide a lot of all the different kinds of food that the hen wants to eat; seeds, egg, greens, etc.
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Re: Influencing the chance for gouldian female chicks

Post by debbie276 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:45 pm

I do believe there are scientific studies done with black lights that do say it produces more hens if you have lopsided clutches.
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GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: Influencing the chance for gouldian female chicks

Post by Haider » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:31 pm

how many females are you looking for?

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Re: Influencing the chance for gouldian female chicks

Post by lovezebs » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:55 am

paddywack

http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2 ... -drives-m/

Thought you might find this article interesting and informative.
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Re: Influencing the chance for gouldian female chicks

Post by paddywack » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:26 pm

Haider, I was able to pick up one female at the last bird fair, which brings my female grand total to 3. I currently have 4 males, so another female would be good. It took me a whole year of bird shows to add the 2 additional females to my flock.

Lovezebs, Great article. I am very interested in the biological and genetic aspect of breeding, so this article was very much appreciated. I did not realize that gouldians were threatened in the wild. Makes me thankful that there is a strong breeding program here in America.
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Re: Influencing the chance for gouldian female chicks

Post by GouldianGuy » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:04 pm

paddywack wrote: Lovezebs, Great article. I am very interested in the biological and genetic aspect of breeding, so this article was very much appreciated. I did not realize that gouldians were threatened in the wild. Makes me thankful that there is a strong breeding program here in America.
The biggest issue with Gouldians is that they do not know why they are still declining despite efforts to protect habitat and to stop wild capture. My understanding is that there are a few "wild" breeding programs out there, but most Australian Goulds in captivity are no longer wild-type Goulds and may be a detriment to future generations if released. That being said, if it came to be, I'm sure a flock of captive Goulds could boost numbers, just might be more susceptible to disease and predators.

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Re: Influencing the chance for gouldian female chicks

Post by debbie276 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:07 pm

They are putting their finger on why there is a decline. Adding special deep nest boxes in the wild are one of several programs to help increase their numbers.

Check out save the gouldian fund
http://savethegouldian.net

They have a new site but used to have links to many articles by Sarah Pryke
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long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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