The Magic red and The Red American Singer Canary

[purplejasminevn]

Not to worry but when standing in front of the Starbucks' menu we can have a good chuckle!

Thanks for bring this up Cindy
I am drinking Starbucks daily - what should I do/think now?
oh well - They are still way dawn too good to pass

[purplejasminevn]

You are absolutely right – That is why I said there is nothing wrong with bugs – certain bugs – but I also know there is no BUG thingy in Magic Red.
There are people around the world eats bugs and believe in bugs. I am sure lots of us have eaten them in just different formula like you said people freak out once they heard.
I can go for chapters in regarding bugs – but this post is for Magic red from Dean and I rather wanted him to let us know himself.
Good chatting guys

I didn't mean to hijack your thread, it was just meant as an interesting (I thought) side issue. Sorry about that.

All getting too contentious for me, I just like to come here as a brief diversion from work and last thing I want is to butt in.

oh no - don't feel that way- I had no intention saying that way - Sorry if I did not make myself clear enough- It is interesting as well from here- Trust me - I will let you know if I think you butt in
I appreciate you clear out that part-
I just have lots of grossed out stories of bugs that I don't think I can't post yet

cheers

[cindy]

Q, my husband is an entomoligist. I started looking up the natural recent red products approved by the FDA, told my my husband what I found....he said the insect has been known for it's distinct red properties.....so I presented the question....is this one of the ingredients? Guess not but interesting none the less.

[CandoAviary]

Nope, nothing wrong with bugs... I have raised many bugs to feed my birds... also have eaten bugs... no problems here...
This topic was started about Magic Red, a product designed and created and approved for Canary science, ceo Dean K
Just clarifying because someone implying that it contains bugs based on speculation written on the very post about the Magic Red product may confuse people into mixing this ingredient up with what the Actual ingredients are in the Magic Red.

[CandoAviary]

Just curious Dean you using Cochineal or carmine derived from the carcasses of South and Central America insect called the Dactylopius coccus (females). You can by the buy it by the gram, it recently was approved by the FDA.

You recently mentioned that your ingredient was recently approved by the FDA in a past post.

Cindy, I do read carefully.... I did not see this as a question. I read this as you wrote it , a statement.. and an incorrect statement at that.

lol... I guess you meant to write... Are you using? not you using Cochineal... phrasing and puntuation marks make a big difference with how one reads something.

[purplejasminevn]

Q, my husband is an entomoligist. I started looking up the natural recent red products approved by the FDA, told my my husband what I found....he said the insect has been known for it's distinct red properties.....so I presented the question....is this one of the ingredients? Guess not but interesting none the less.

Sounds super cool - Wish your hubby could meet with my uncle- He used to do bug thingy with all the Russian siencetist since I grow up. That is why I said I had/have lots of grossed stories about them ( at least gross to me) - Actually the bugs were used for political reasons and I will not disclose here Sorry -
Now I probably open up a whole can of other worms - But yes they are very interesting -

[CandoAviary]

quote from Dean "... so wish me a good luck to keep going and hopping to discover new things to keep us and our birds happier . The color has been approved by the FDA and showing that has Zero chemical in it also Zero hot red pepper that can be harsh on the canary Kidney and digestive system . Thanks for reading ..."

Candace, you need to read what I am say/asking more carefully.

Here is the more of that quate about the color 0000BF. I did read it that it was his color that was approved by the FDA

"The color is red powder made from only natural Red fruits, veg, and red seed the red powder should be mixed with canaries dry food not in water .. this color must be fed to the young's through their parents and as soon as they hatch, you will notice that there feathers and skin color became red even if their parents feathers color is yellow.

That was my created red food color for canaries, so wish me a good luck to keep going and hopping to discover new things to keep us and our birds happier . The color has been approved by the FDA and showing that has Zero chemical in it also Zero hot red pepper that can be harsh on the canary Kidney and digestive system ." quote from K


Any way...Bottom Line... Dean has the Best and safest colorant that I have ever seen

[DanteD716]

I am confused by this. I thought you are not supposed to colorfeed canaries? I was always taugjt that you breed for the strong color, and that they are red because of genetics.

To add on to this, so does this mean they are not naturally born red?

[purplejasminevn]

quote from Dean "... so wish me a good luck to keep going and hopping to discover new things to keep us and our birds happier . The color has been approved by the FDA and showing that has Zero chemical in it also Zero hot red pepper that can be harsh on the canary Kidney and digestive system . Thanks for reading ..."

Candace, you need to read what I am say/asking more carefully.

Here is the more of that quate about the color 0000BF. I did read it that it was his color that was approved by the FDA

"The color is red powder made from only natural Red fruits, veg, and red seed the red powder should be mixed with canaries dry food not in water .. this color must be fed to the young's through their parents and as soon as they hatch, you will notice that there feathers and skin color became red even if their parents feathers color is yellow.

That was my created red food color for canaries, so wish me a good luck to keep going and hopping to discover new things to keep us and our birds happier . The color has been approved by the FDA and showing that has Zero chemical in it also Zero hot red pepper that can be harsh on the canary Kidney and digestive system ." quote from K


Any way...Bottom Line... Dean has the Best and safest colorant that I have ever seen

I can't lie or make up the statement - My canaries have been showing/proving to me about the Magic Red . I can't wait for my chicks proving to rest of the world - Let's see

[lovemyfinch]

Before things get heated here I am just going to try and clarify Dean's statement. *If I am wrong Dean please correct me*

I believe that what Dean was saying has been approved by the FDA is his secret recipe.

Congrats Dean Of course I really don't think that anyone should be expecting Dean to give out all of the ingredients and ratios. At least not until he is able to get the patent on this product thus making it his and only his product.

[purplejasminevn]

Before things get heated here I am just going to try and clarify Dean's statement. *If I am wrong Dean please correct me*

I believe that what Dean was saying has been approved by the FDA is his secret recipe.

Congrats Dean Of course I really don't think that anyone should be expecting Dean to give out all of the ingredients and ratios. At least not until he is able to get the patent on this product thus making it his and only his product.

[CandoAviary]

I am confused by this. I thought you are not supposed to colorfeed canaries? I was always taugjt that you breed for the strong color, and that they are red because of genetics.

To add on to this, so does this mean they are not naturally born red?

Dante, if you are speaking of colofed birds..like the red factor... yes they are bred for getic colors but they will never obtain that color if not provided with the very food that their body uses to make these colors. Like flamingoes not getting the shrimp(contains caretenoids)they will molt out white....
As for american singers, they are bred for song... but with Magic Red you can make a bird not bred genetically for red factor and have it red if you want to.

[CandoAviary]

I believe that what Dean was saying has been approved by the FDA is his secret recipe.

Congrats Dean Of course I really don't think that anyone should be expecting Dean to give out all of the ingredients and ratios. At least not until he is able to get the patent on this product thus making it his and only his product.

Exactly

[purplejasminevn]

I am confused by this. I thought you are not supposed to colorfeed canaries? I was always taugjt that you breed for the strong color, and that they are red because of genetics.

To add on to this, so does this mean they are not naturally born red?

Dante, if you are speaking of colofed birds..like the red factor... yes they are bred for getic colors but they will never obtain that color if not provided with the very food that their body uses to make these colors. Like flamingoes not getting the shrimp(contains caretenoids)they will molt out white....
As for american singers, they are bred for song... but with Magic Red you can make a bird not bred genetically for red factor and have it red if you want to.

well written / said Thank you

[DanteD716]

Thank you for clarifying Candace. I love the deep red, and guess it is not wrong as they are redfactors and you ar just helping them