The Magic red and The Red American Singer Canary

[cindy]

Dean the bug product is in a fine powdered state...no legs or antennas!!!!

[purplejasminevn]

Q, I was not very fond of bugs until I met my husband, learned a lot from him. His field is mosquito borne diseases. I helped him collect insects for all his drawers of mounted insects for his degree!!! I netted but did not touch!

I do not have canaries at this time, I would like to someday....saw some stunning reds at a show a while back, the Opals interest me.

My mother bred them, I loved hearing the house full of song. Every afternoon it was training for 1/2 an hour, we all read as my mother played the songs to train them, when one would start to sing just a little bit we would get so excited but had to stay quiet....it was so interesting and fun.

Wow - I can tell you that is interesting what you helped your hubby. Now you may laugh out loud and falling off the chair if I tell you that whenever I feed the meal worms to finches - My boy will help to pick up the one that is all over place

I used to raise silk worms for school project when I was little and I would not touch them - I feed them but that was it- My brother would take care of the rest.
Ok that is enough for my secrets and yes I am a little princess/ chicken

In regarding to Canaries - I have seen a green/grey opals canary on FB and can’t remember where it came from. I don't want you think I am showing off or what so ever but don't we all just want to have all lovely birds. Opals have their unique beauty.

As far as the songs go - I have 14 male singers in the house and of course there 3 males are the leaders.

Less than 6 months ago - My house was not full of songs from dust till dawn like now . I started out with SW canaries then from local bird’s stores or mart. I love birds - All my $$$$ from works is gone with the BIRDS.
And Starbucks of course. These 3 singers I got from Dean have been leading / coaching the rest - Do not ask me why and how? Please ... I will do the research someday if we win lottery and all I do is watching birds/ rescuing birds.

All I can say - I love being around them and listen to their songs - I actual just thought about how to record each song so I can measure of which one has longer note

[The canary man]

Dean the bug product is in a fine powdered state...no legs or antennas!!!!

I know Cindy , i just have been sarcastic (Joking).

Cindy as you mentioned in your above post that you like canaries and your Mom used to have some, Allow me to give you one of my best singers as a gift,(Good faith) i really do not know where do you live !, if its so far you will be paying the shipping and you get to have great Red American singer .
So what do you think ?

[cindy]

Dean, thank you but there are plenty of local breeders here in Florida. For the cost of shipping I could get a pair here locally, and have money left over. Shipping costs went up, a friend told me that out of the Tampa area it went to $165 to ship his birds out.

I am more emersed in my zebra mutations right now. Canaries if I get back into them is a thing in the far future, the Agates like cooopers has pictured.

[CandoAviary]

Dean, I would think if the bugs were added to the Magic Red to increase protein that could be detrimental to birds that need to eat less protein.. for health reasons. I think the proteins should be offered seperately so that you could control the amount of protien in the diet ... without loosing the beautiful Red coloration.
I think it is good to have a pure colorant that has no side effects that could cause problems with gout and the such in canaries... and possibly even contribute to creating a gout health issue due to the protein. With them you have to reduce the protein intake and then if that meant not giving the food colorant because it had protein then... what is the point... a yellow or white american singer canary? The objective is a safe colorant food that can be feed to any bird... at any time ...without harmful effects. Thank you for this well thought out product

Also many products with proteins whether egg or insect derived goes bad if not kept properly and can actually make your birds extremely sick if uneaten and left in the cage.
Glad you are not entertaining the thought of adding bug proteins... maybe others will like to know your secret of the best nestling protein food that I have learned from you, your site and soon your book! ... and it's not eggs

Some of these things I have learned from you with the rearing of canaries and have implemented them with the rearing of gouldian, parrot, and zebra finches... Wow.. never had such stuffed and healthy chicks ever Thank you again for being so generous with all of you research, you are one in a million.

[Dayna]

When is this new book due to be hitting the shelves? I'd love to read it!

[Dayna]

One other thing, where do you buy some of these things like the limestone?

[The canary man]

Candy you are 100% right, i really do not know much about the bug protein product that Cindy mentioned even thought it could be a good product as far as color and protein , but as you said protein always must be provided to canaries as a separated sources when its concentrated .

I believe that the magic red is completed color. I thank you all for the share, and as you know candy soon i will complete the yellow color which it took a lot of my time , i can not wait to see it result when its fed to the new hatch young,s .
Soon i will be done with the Bumble foot and the molting in canaries then iam thinking to make a trip with my family to Florida, i love the Sun and heat .

Dean K.

[DanteD716]

Dean, you have been creating so many new things!! Maybe we will see them on the market!

[The canary man]

When is this new book due to be hitting the shelves? I'd love to read it!

Dayna , Thanks for asking i will let you know but honestly not sooner.
sorry

Lime stone is vary vary good for birds, if you like to buy it i believe Candy selling it. please feed it to your birds you will see how they will be all over it, then you will remember my advice of using it .

Good luck.
Dean K.

[purplejasminevn]

maybe others will like to know your secret of the best nestling protein food that I have learned from you, your site and soon your book! ... and it's not eggs .

I got some
I am ready for my Red American Singers 27 Project
Dean, I hope you will be ready when They hatch
Just kidding - I know that you are born ready for the Canaries

[The canary man]

Dean, you have been creating so many new things!! Maybe we will see them on the market!

Dante.. You wrote ( may be we will see my products in the market). I did not understand !!!! o ya sorry i do now, did you mean you wish me a good luck to see my products in the market !!!!!? ok i got it now.

Any way, Having them in the market is not a smart idea, let me explain to you what is the smart way to grow a business may be someday you will be able to create something and use this business way to make money before you see it in the market .

step one:The smart way is: I must be the only one sells my product as a small business, but when my products as the magic red reach at least 25% of the country and i be making a good $$$$ at that time i will move on to the second step .

step two: I will sell my recipe to a big Co. for a big $$$ plus i will be able to sell it too and keep making the $$$, or i can start with a small factory to make it and sell it which is not my interest .

Did you get it ?

And by the way i have been waiting to see a clip for your new yellow canary song, as you know i love canaries and i love to hear a canary song. would you please ?

[Cath1068]

Good reading..... But my question still stands un-answered. If I feed magic red to my red factors and their legs and skin turn red will they get disqualified at a show ? Someday I would like to be able to show my reds.

Cath

[debbie276]

Good reading..... But my question still stands un-answered. If I feed magic red to my red factors and their legs and skin turn red will they get disqualified at a show ? Someday I would like to be able to show my reds.

Cath

I would take this quote posted by Candace as a yes, they would be disqualified

There is a fine art to getting a red factor colobred canary (not to be confused with an American singer) to be as red as can be without looking artificial... such as red feet.

[finchmix22]

I have been so busy lately, I just got caught up on this thread. I wanted to add one more comment for everyone to consider.....

Is there a way to post our different opinions/questions or healthy debates about finches care etc. without putting down the other poster? Lately, I've seen several posts/threads that becomes "heated," if you can interpret emotions in writing posts. I don't think most people intend for their posts to be viewed as confrontational, but when we have different opinions to share, we would do well to be careful how we phrase our opinions and that we don't be too critical of others who disagree. We can all read these posts and take and use what fits our situation, but the different opinions can be helpful, if the posts are done in a friendly and respectful manner.

Otherwise, a very interesting and lively thread.