Gouldian Color ID

[CandoAviary]

My seagreen birds that I've had and seen didn't have peach colored heads, per se, the heads were pretty much the same hue of orange.
But even in the second picture next to that normal OH you can see a difference in the coloration.

I don't have any sea green gouldians, only have seen them in the books. Lucky you, could you post a picture of some of yours that you have had? I would love to see them and learn more about that mutation. Did you breed for the sea green, if so what where the parents?

I did notice in the second picture that the head was lighter than the normal male but I assumed it was because the bird is a female and a silver, therefore would not be as dark as a males mask, especially a normal YH green back.

[nixity]

I have some pictures on my computer at home but I haven't set it up since being in the new place, I'm just using a laptop I got for free from work since I don't spend a lot of time on the internet at home.

The first Seagreen I had was a bird on loan from Lainey because I was interested in working with the mutation and she wasn't, so she offered to let me try to breed the hen to see if I could reproduce it.
From speaking with various people, popular opinion was that the best option to attempt to reproduce it is to pair the bird to a blue or silver male, neither of which I had at the time that was mature enough to breed.
So I had her for a few months time and then ended up giving her back to Lainey for her to try to breed but not necessarily to try to reproduce, and she ended up dying not too long after from a crop impaction.

I produced a Seagreen of my own this past year and her parents were a Yellow/Blue hen a Blue male.
I have those pictures at home, too. She was really small and died suddenly shortly after she finished her molt.

Most of the ones I've seen have been on the smaller side and tend to have other conformational issues that I'm not crazy about.

There is a big broker that comes to the Baltimore shows that always has cages and cages full of blah looking birds (he was trying to sell one once that only had one eye ), and in his cages I have seen a few Seagreen/Par Blue looking birds that were actually quite nice to look at, but he couldn't tell me squat about them (including their age) so I didn't bite because I had no idea what I could be potentially bringing into my flock based on the quality of the birds surrounding them .

Sorry to hijack

[MLaRue]

I've seen this color in person - Susan had one that was brought in for a friend that takes older birds for retirement. This bird was a twirler and Susan took the bird from the original breeder in hopes of reproducing the color but shortly after became a twirler.

The colors are awesome in person - and what is being shown in the pictures is almost exactly what I saw in person. The orange is brighter and a different hue in person.

Here is the post -

http://finchforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... son#p90913

[GOULDYGIRL]

I'm still amazed that this is a possibility

Misty was this a hen your friend had? It just defies logic. A pastel looking hen that has a bright orange head???

Do you happen to know what the parents were of this bird your friend had?? What a shame that it had to turn out a twirler. I can only imagine what these colors must look like in person.

Renee

[CandoAviary]

[quote="nixity"]
I produced a Seagreen of my own this past year and her parents were a Yellow/Blue hen a Blue male.
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Thanks so much for the information... I am going to try and breed some

[MLaRue]

I'm still amazed that this is a possibility

Misty was this a hen your friend had? It just defies logic. A pastel looking hen that has a bright orange head???

Do you happen to know what the parents were of this bird your friend had?? What a shame that it had to turn out a twirler. I can only imagine what these colors must look like in person.

Renee

It has been so long now I can't remember - I also now wonder if it wasn't a female? The colors were gorgeous either way - next time I see Susan I will ask her if she remembers or even the orginal breeder - but haven't seen him at the fairs in some time so not sure if he is even breeding them anymore?

[nixity]

I remember you telling me about that bird and always was dying to have been able to see it

[MLaRue]

I remember you telling me about that bird and always was dying to have been able to see it

The color was exquisite! I would love to be able to produce the color openly like we produce the blues and yellows.

Hopefully he will be able to produce this color from the bird he just got

[CandoAviary]

Never seen one but sure hope to someday. Hopefully someone will be able to get one bred that is of good size and not a twirler. I love the different mutations but I love a healthy bird more

[Ratrodfink]

If anyone has any suggestions as to a color of a male to pair her with then let me know. I have a really nice blue male that you can kind of see in the one pic I posted. I'm going to try and get better pics this weekend. Besides all the color hoopla she's a healthy bird. Eating well and generally bouncing around the cage.

[CandoAviary]

Healthy is always the most important thing It's not usually recommended to breed a blue to a blue or a blue to a silver, though many have with fine results. I have paired them but they did not bond and breed so I have no personal experience.
I would suggest a yellow/blue male, either single or double factor.