Learn about mutations and expected breeding outcomes.
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BaceyBoop
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by BaceyBoop » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:53 am
guess i'll start by once again apologizing for my fuzzy pics
my photographer friend is tired of taking pics of my birds every time i think a new feather pops out
so my little fledglings from my dilute male and my female of questionable head color (
http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=14072) are almost old enough to be on their own and moved into their big birdy cages. so far i know for sure that i have 2 yellow females and a dilute male. the other 2 appear to be normal so i can't tell their sex. looking at them, however, one of them is definitely darker than the other one. one's head and back look darker. and their chests are pretty obviously different shades. my last bunch of fledglings all looked the same until they started their molt, so i don't know if fledglings can come in different shades or if maybe their difference in color is an indication of sex and/or color variation. i took a few pics of them and i thought i'd let the experts take a look and tell me what you think!
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BaceyBoop
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by BaceyBoop » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:55 am
silly forum won't let me post more than 3 pics, so here's pics of the bird's chests for comparison
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nelloyello11
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by nelloyello11 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:59 am
I don't know anything about gouldian coloring, but you're pictures are great- not fuzzy at all! Beautiful birds!
Nelissa
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by monotwine » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:06 am
Lovely youngsters.
I've had quite a few green back youngsters come out of the nests and they all have various shades of green.
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BaceyBoop
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by BaceyBoop » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:55 am
well i've only had a few clutches so far, so i'm still pretty new to the wide world of breeding gouldians! so, of course, any little differences i see are gonna get me excited.
i have learned in my short time that breeding gouldians can be a surprising grab bag, though. both pairs i've bred have given me surprise babies. so i guess for now the forum is just gonna have to suffer through seeing pics every time i think something is off. i know how much you guys hate pictures!
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by debbie276 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:52 am
You've got a couple of very nice looking birds there!
good luck
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by lovemyfinch » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:46 am
Beautiful babies
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by nelloyello11 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:00 am
Nelissa
1 NG (Peter), 2 SF/FF (Astrid & Nina) and 2 BC (Desmond & Penelope) Zebra finches
2 Owl Finches (Hedwig & Fawkes)
Painted turtle (Keeker)
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by L in Ontario » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:04 am
Good looking juvies there! They could both colour up and look identical after they moult out or they could be different head and breast colours. That's one of the many endearing qualities of Gouldians... the mystery of the juvies' colours!
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by nixity » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:10 pm
I think you've got a boy and a girl
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BaceyBoop
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by BaceyBoop » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:22 pm
well based on the pair's last clutch, males should be RH/PB and females should be BH/PB
i hate having to be patient!!
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by ac12 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:31 pm
he he
Being impatient is a bad combo with breeding gouldians.
Waiting for gouldians to color in is worse than watching paint dry...it takes MONTHS. For me the only "shortcut" is when I see one of the juv singing or trying to sing. Then it is a male, and I can look up what the males "should" be, using this forecaster.
http://www.amadinagouldove.cz/gouldian- ... /index.php
But the hidden splits in the parents has surprised me. I got an OH-PB-YB from two RH-PB/WB-YB parents. The breeder did not mention they were split for OH. A very nice surprise.
Gary
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by Vertdemer » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:54 pm
BaceyBoop wrote:silly forum won't let me post more than 3 pics, so here's pics of the bird's chests for comparison
Isa
30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
Lover of colors...and sorry for my bad english writing...!
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BaceyBoop
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by BaceyBoop » Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:59 pm
so i looked at my birds today and i think the darker baby is female. i see a few black feathers peaking out. i could be wrong cuz where the feathers are, they could be far enough back on the head to be the beginnings of the black ring around a red mask. so exciting! but i'm going out of town for a week and won't be able to check their progress
at least maybe i'll come home to some surprise new feathers!
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by BaceyBoop » Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:31 pm
nixity wrote:I think you've got a boy and a girl
well i have confirmation! the darker colored one is getting black feathers in it's mask, which means it's a girl. the lighter one hasn't started getting his colors yet, but he was singing his little heart out for me a few minutes ago!
it's crazy how good you guys are at telling these things
