What Java Mutation

[flrancho]

I have a few Javas. When I got my initial two I was under the impression that they were both normal greys. However, my hen is finally molting into her adult colors (it seems like I've had her forever and its taken her months to go into adult color). Anyway, I was looking at my hen, and she doesn't look like she's normal gray anymore. Maybe pied?



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She is molting in this picture, but you can see all the white on her chest. She also looks like she has some ticking on her head (though some of the white on her head in the pic is new quills). Her back and wings are solid gray and her chest and head is really the only place this bird has these white markings.

When I was reading about pied Javas, I came across someplace where it said that a normal grey Java will have no white on it anywhere except its cheeks and under its tail. This then made me question my male, who has one wing that is trimmed in white. I read that this could be a sign that he is split to pied?



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What color mutation do you think these two are?

[cindy]

check this link out...
http://www.javafinch.com/coulor/colour.html

I'll try to compare his pictures to yours using two lap tops.

[cindy]

She looks lightly pied...wonder if the other is split to pied (zebras exhibit the white wing edges when split to pied, wonder if it is the same in javas)

[cindy]

take a look at Garrie Landry's site

http://www.zebrafinch.com/JavaRice/Java.html

look at his bird with the pink bnd on the left
http://www.zebrafinch.com/JavaRice/silverjava.jpg it has the white wing edges...pied.

[PrettyBird]

thats interesting. I see in one of your pics under the chin is white...both of my new javas have white under their chin. one has more that the other. Is this also a sign of being split to something? Or is this in all normal Javas?

[cindy]

Dee, I posted the muttion site above....but check these out

http://www.javafinch.com/coulor/colour.html

also look at the one in the front left..white under the chin and lightly pied
http://www.zebrafinch.com/JavaRice/NewJava2.JPG

[flrancho]

Looks like I have a lightly pied hen and a split to pied male then? I'll have to change my records.

[PrettyBird]

The only one I saw with white under the chin were the dark silvers...so could mine be split to this? or split to pied? im so confused lol

[wellingtoncdm]

White chins are very common in some wild/normal colored javas. It is a sign of some pied genes at some point along the way. It is very hard to breed this back out of them. It doesn't mean that they are carrying heavy pied bloodlines. This is also very common in self societies.