Defining my new Gouldian males

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Defining my new Gouldian males

Post by finchandlovebird » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:33 am

Dec 11 I bought 2 young Gouldian males, which are "visually" BH/WB/Gb/Bb

I was told the parents were Cock RH/WB/YB & Hen was BH/WB/BB

Using the Lady Gouldian forecaster it seems that this cannot be. It would seem the parent would have to be Cock OH/WB/SFYB and Hen BH/WB/BB.

Can someone verify this for me??? Thanks a heap :?
Dolly J

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Re: Defining my new Gouldian males

Post by debbie276 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:39 am

The father could be split to BH and SFYellow (RH/BH.WB.SFYb) to get your BH.WB.Gb/Bb male
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: Defining my new Gouldian males

Post by finchandlovebird » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:55 am

Thanks Debbie; that must be it. Cause they did say the dad was RH, so he must be RH/BH.
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Re: Defining my new Gouldian males

Post by debbie276 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:06 pm

Your welcome.
Also if the father was DFYellow the male chicks would also be visually Yellow even if they were SF because of the White Breast, to get a Green body chick the father had to be SF.
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: Defining my new Gouldian males

Post by finchandlovebird » Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:39 pm

I figured that out Debbie. I still need confirmation from you experts though, & appreciate very much that you are out there & willing to help us all out.
Dolly J

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Raised Gouldians & Scarlet Chested Parakeets in past years

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Re: Defining my new Gouldian males

Post by finchandlovebird » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:27 pm

debbie276 Something I didn't mention in this thread Debbie, is that they both have YELLOW TIPPED BEAKS. Does this throw any light on what they are?
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Re: Defining my new Gouldian males

Post by debbie276 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:50 pm

http://www.finchinfo.com/genetics/lady_ ... colors.php
If two yellow head genes are present on a bird that has no red head genes (and instead has black head genes), the bird will have a black head with a yellow tipped beak (YTB). This occurs because the bird is genetically a yellow headed bird, but it cannot express the yellow color because the yellow gene depends on the red head gene for expression, and the red head gene is not there.

So the parents were both split to Yellow Head also.
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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