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Re: Pretty zebra chick

Post by cindy » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:42 am

In the states we don't have Isabel, the baby looks Florida silver to me.

In the states we don't have Isabel, the baby looks Florida silver to me
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Florida Fancy
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Florida silver...this one is split to pied (white wing edges)
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Florida fancy male
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young Florida silver male and FF hen

on the FF if you look at the tail you barely see tail bars, on the FS it has silver tail bars.

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Re: Pretty zebra chick

Post by Chris103 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:17 pm

cindy wrote: In the states we don't have Isabel, the baby looks Florida silver to me.

In the states we don't have Isabel, the baby looks Florida silver to me
1 Florida Fancy male.JPG
Florida Fancy
1-1 2011 Florida silver male-father avatar.jpg
Florida silver...this one is split to pied (white wing edges)
1-27-2012 FF male.jpg
Florida fancy male
1-23-2012 fledgling phone shot 3.jpg
young Florida silver male and FF hen

on the FF if you look at the tail you barely see tail bars, on the FS it has silver tail bars.

I didn't think we had Isabels in the states either. That being said, how Did Florida Silver colored chicks come from a pair that isn't FF or FS? Florida Fancy being co-dominant, wouldn't one parent have to be visually FF or FS? I just had a normal male and fawn female give me chicks that look like the FS chick pictured. I'm puzzled! Adorable chicks and beautiful English Zebras btw!
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Re: Pretty zebra chick

Post by cindy » Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:05 pm

Yes, you can have birds split to FF and FS

efinch.com http://www.efinch.com/species/ffzeb.htm
"Identifying Splits
Male: When Florida Fancies are crossed with normal Gray Zebras, the result is a color in between the two - a silvery diluted gray. The normally black markings are reduced to the point that they are almost the same color as the body color. These birds have been called 'Silver Isabels' by Garrie Landry of Franklin, LA (zebrafinch.com) and more recently these birds have been referred to as Florida Silvers. With their diluted gray color and orange markings at full strength, they are often confused with Recessive Silvers, but there are some differences. Namely, the black markings on the Florida Fancy split or silvers are reduced to nearly the same color as the base gray. In Recessive Silvers the tear mark and breast bar are reduced in color, but are quite prominent against the diluted base color. The orange lacing of the wings can also be seen in the Florida Fancy splits as well as the buff coloring of the belly.

Female: Like the male, the female shows a silver gray color with the normally black markings of the normal reduced to the same color as the body. The females will often be lighter in comparison to the males in regards to this silver color. The belly will have the buff coloring of the Florida Fancy, but does not appear as rich"

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Re: Pretty zebra chick

Post by Rin » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:06 am

I see.. It's getting confusing. Like chris103, both parents doesn't appear to be splits to ff fs. The chick gotten lighter as it grew and looked like a ff, really pretty! Wish I had taken a pic.

Thanks everyone for posting !

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Re: Pretty zebra chick

Post by cindy » Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:49 pm

I have one pair of gray, from appearance Dad is a lightback mom is a NG they give me fawn and silver FF hens. The parents do not have to show the trait for splits just carry the gene. Often spits to FF will show an orange lacing to the wing feathers.

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Re: Pretty zebra chick

Post by Chris103 » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:30 pm

This article makes it sound like we may have European Isabels in the states.
http://www.efinch.com/species/ffxisabelzeb.htm
From my understanding since FF and FS are both co-dominant, a bird can't be split for one or the other. What we consider FF splits are really Single factor FF, aka Florida Silvers as we call them. If the Euro Isabel Is in fact in the states, it could explain Normal non FF or FS pairs producing birds that look FF...they could be Euro Isabels. Just my two cents :D . Hope it makes some sense!
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