Seagreen Gouldian

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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by CandoAviary » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:32 pm

Wow... that lutino red head is awesome..as is your new seagreen. :D
The mouth markings on your yellow look normal to me.
Here is another post that discusses nodules and beak markings on yellows and AY... In one of nixity's photo's there is a chick that the beak?mouth markings look the same as yours? Poosibly?
http://finchforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7 ... 41#p195641

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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by Vertdemer » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:11 pm

WOW! Gorgeous birds! :D
Is it some red feathers on the head of your "probably" pastel sea green cock?[quote][/quote]
I hope you'll post some pics of these guy progressing with molting! :lol:
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Post by bernd76287 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:29 am

Vertdemer wrote:WOW! Gorgeous birds! :D
Is it some red feathers on the head of your "probably" pastel sea green cock?
I hope you'll post some pics of these guy progressing with molting! :lol:
The amazing thing is :roll: this birds comes from no perhaps seagreen pairing. The father is a split Lutino cock, therefore he is perhaps split too. He is a RH one. I will post pics when he starts molting.

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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by Vertdemer » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:42 pm

Hi everybody!
Some new pics of the daughters of Opaline and VDM3b's hen...

The lilac breast's one seems to be seagreen :lol:
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The picture isn't quite good but it's easy to see the difference between the daughters...!
The picture isn't quite good but it's easy to see the difference between the daughters...!
White breast and lilac breast...
White breast and lilac breast...
The lilac breast hen...
The lilac breast hen...
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Post by Vertdemer » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:48 pm

and other pictures of VDM3b's sons...(the father was YH WB GB/BB)...
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and light yellow belly...
and light yellow belly...
Molt is almost finished!!! Really bright red head.
Molt is almost finished!!! Really bright red head.
The two brothers...one lilac breast and the other is white breast
The two brothers...one lilac breast and the other is white breast
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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by Vertdemer » Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:56 pm

some more to see the lighter belly and the gentle "violet" touch on the back... :)

The white breast one...you can compare with the other belly's male. His red tip beak and his head are lighter too.
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Gentle violet touch...
Gentle violet touch...
The lilac breast one.
The lilac breast one.
The white breast...you can compare with the other belly's male. His red tip beak and his head are lighter too.
The white breast...you can compare with the other belly's male. His red tip beak and his head are lighter too.
Isa

30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by bernd76287 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:41 am

Just an update:
Two SF yellows!
2 OF Yellows.jpg
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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by Vertdemer » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:16 pm

bernd76287 wrote:Just an update:
Two SF yellows!
2 OF Yellows.jpg
2OF Yellows2.jpg
Are they "sons" of your "strange chick" hen???
Really strange mixt of blue and yellow...!
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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by bernd76287 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:48 pm

Vertdemer wrote:
bernd76287 wrote:Just an update:
Two SF yellows!
2 OF Yellows.jpg
2OF Yellows2.jpg
Are they "sons" of your "strange chick" hen???
Really strange mixt of blue and yellow...!
No this is the boy from post 143!?
Yes I know SF pastels do differ much from a very dark green to a yellowgreen. But this boy seems to get a very light greenyellow back.
The color of the belly will become as I see normal yellow.

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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by Vertdemer » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:54 pm

Other pictures of one of the daughters of "Opaline cock" and "VDM3b hen"...molting slowly! :wink:[quote][/quote]
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Sisters... an intense "Opaline's hen version" with her sea green sister's...!
Sisters... an intense "Opaline's hen version" with her sea green sister's...!
A pastel blue back cock(son of Mosaïque hen and VDM2b cock) compare to Seagreen almost blue neck hen...
A pastel blue back cock(son of Mosaïque hen and VDM2b cock) compare to Seagreen almost blue neck hen...
Seagreen or Turquoise back!!! (or neck and tertiary feathers...!)
Seagreen or Turquoise back!!! (or neck and tertiary feathers...!)
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30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
Lover of colors...and sorry for my bad english writing...!

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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by 6finchfriends » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:23 am

I really enjoy looking at everyone's photos. How long did it take you all to aquire the Gouldians you wanted to use as breeding stock and then to decide what you wanted to breed for? I wish I could see everyone's birds in person! They're all so beautiful and different.
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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by Vertdemer » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:42 pm

6finchfriends wrote:I really enjoy looking at everyone's photos. How long did it take you all to aquire the Gouldians you wanted to use as breeding stock and then to decide what you wanted to breed for? I wish I could see everyone's birds in person! They're all so beautiful and different.
It takes long, [-o< long time to choose and get the right birds...choosing the colors, morphs, size and be able to have couples who please themselves :?
I bought my special VDM1a in november 2008...the first one with the bluish back... and the cock I had at that time was the brother of a "winner" of the Montreal Birds Show of 2007(Pascale Harvey was the breeder of this cock)...He is a great father (RH/BH PB/WB GB/BB? Dark factor) so I've matched them and I've got my first really nice gouldians at that time...april 2009...(VDM1b cock, VDM2b cock & VDM3b hen). With those three who are probably Dark factor, I tried different partners...

VDM1a hen and VDM1b cock(her son... with one leg) were put together and they got "Opaline cock" and a beautiful BH PB BB hen.
Then Opaline cock was breed with VDM3b hen and I got the two last lady on the pictures... I know inbreeding can conduct to some issue so I will mix new blood with my little pool... :|

VDM3b hen had four young with a beautiful OH Imperfect WB GB/BB, one RH/OH LB BB(cobalt) cock, one RH/OH LB SeagreenB cock, one RH/OH WB SeagreenB cockand one hen sold as immature :?

VDM1a had other partners too... an OH WB DYF GB cock who died when breeding... :cry: They had five young together...

As you can see, all these birds was reese in relatively long period of time (not much young and with some lost too). So it's a long journey and when something goes wrong with my birds, I'm quite disappointed...! A lot a patience but a lot of gratifications too!!!
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VDM3b, the mother of the sea green hen
VDM3b, the mother of the sea green hen
Opaline's family...Opaline cock, VDM3b and their daughters...
Opaline's family...Opaline cock, VDM3b and their daughters...
The sea green almost blue back hen...who's not so good today...
The sea green almost blue back hen...who's not so good today...
Isa

30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
Lover of colors...and sorry for my bad english writing...!

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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by CandoAviary » Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:04 am

You really know how to choose the right birds to produce some one of a kind chicks :D

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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by 6finchfriends » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:59 pm

Thanks so much for the explanation Isa. It's interesting to me how people decide what to breed for and how they find the birds to use. You don't breed just to sell- You breed to enhance your stock in the direction you want it to go. Do you sell the ones you don't want to use as breeders ? How many Gouldians do you work with? When I hybridized my own daylilies it was kind of like breeding Gouldians. It took two - three years from pollinating, gathering seeds, planting, and growing to seeing the flowers bloom. Then you have to decide which ones to keep and which ones to give away. It takes patience. The photos you posted are great! Beautiful Gouldians!
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Re: Seagreen Gouldian

Post by Vertdemer » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:19 pm

Thanks all for your nice comments!!! :D

I have currently between 30 and 40 gouldians... about 10 in juvenile feather and the other ones are adults... some that I keep to breed and some that I sell when my mind is set about the features I don't want to keep...(but always difficult to let go... :shock: )
I have a "crush" for gouldians with a lot of blue(on back, breast,sea green...) but with red head :lol: so when of of them seems to emerge from a clutch, I keep it for breeding program... I don't breed many couple at the same time... not much than four(probably two) couples in separate breeding cage(four is really a maximum because of lack of space and time...with more breeding, my life would be really crazy with two child, my husband and a full-time job at the hospital+teaching at the university plus other passions like reef keeping, skiing, painting,... :oops: )
So my goal is not to sell, I breed only to see the most colorful gouldians as possible 8). I watch permanently for gouldians on the net or in local stores and when my eye is pleased by a special one, he rapidly becomes a new member of the crew!!! :lol: (my husband don't know that! :twisted: as he doesn't know the final count of member of the "crew", recognize or see the difference between any of my birds!!! :roll:
Gouldians are for me a way to be in "dream space" and really efficient way to put problems away! 8)
Isa

30 Lady Gouldians, green, yellow, blue & seagreen... Purple, white, lilac and blue breast if possible!!! Two Bourke, one Lutino & one Rubino, two green singer and one green Parrotlet.
Lover of colors...and sorry for my bad english writing...!

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