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[Vargur]

You cannot create a Orange breasted bird.
The bird have to be split or full OB and pair
the bird with another split or full OB.
The OB and BB is Recessive.


To get a Phaeo you will need a BB and FF or
BB and Isabel.
But both the parents have to be BB or BB + split.


Here are my BB birds.


Vargs - Undan Vargs Svartskegg og Vargs Gefjun - BB fawn by Elma_Ben, on Flickr


Vargs - Karlfugl undan Vargs Svarskegg og Vargs Gefjun by Elma_Ben, on Flickr


Vargs - Undan Vargs Gefjun og Vargs Svartskegg by Elma_Ben, on Flickr
My Beautiful Isabel BF split for BB


Vargs - kvk by Elma_Ben, on Flickr
BB BF female


Vargs - Ungfugl undan Álmos og Aris by Elma_Ben, on Flickr
BF split BB

And here is one of Álmos (Almos)


Álmos by Elma_Ben, on Flickr
OB BB BF

[DanteD716]

Ah, Almos. What a pretty bird. I will try to get a FF or Isabel, I can get my hands on BB anytime. Looks like I'm going for a phaeo! Thank you Elma, and I'm sure Cindy will be staring at the screen drooling when she sees the pictures!

[DanteD716]

One question, would the male or female have to be the isabel/florida fancy? And what about a BB with a florida silver?

[cindy]

Dante...I gave you this calculation/estimate of possibilites back on page 1....


Provided the male is full BB and the female is isabel
you will get 100% normal/BB Isabel

Provided you male is full and your female is a FS

50% Silver (SF) /Black breasted Isabel
50% Normal/Black breasted Isabel
(I am guessing your female has Isabel in her)

if the male is split and you use your FS
25% Silver (SF) /Black breasted Isabel
25% Normal/Black breasted Isabel
25% Silver (SF) /Isabel
25% Normal/Isabel

No drooling just a deep sigh in admiration, Elma your birds are exceptional!!!

[DanteD716]

Cindy, you probaly did but I do not remember. thanks.

[Vargur]

Well The Idea of the creation of the Phaeo,
was to create a beautiful whitish bird with a lot of orange color.
Because Both FF and Isabel mutation reduces the
black color.
when you combine the BB mutation with FF
you will get a bird mostly white with orange color.

And I am not sure how SFFF will look like
if you combine it with BB.
I think SFFF also tries to reduce the black color,
thats why the bird is all "silver" in color,
maybe you will have a silver looking bird with
lot of orange?
I think you just have to try

[DanteD716]

and I think I will use one of silver's offspring if any turn out silver. Or I may use my hen I have now, and I was about to drool!

[DanteD716]

Well The Idea of the creation of the Phaeo,
was to create a beautiful whitish bird with a lot of orange color.
Because Both FF and Isabel mutation reduces the
black color.
when you combine the BB mutation with FF
you will get a bird mostly white with orange color.

And I am not sure how SFFF will look like
if you combine it with BB.
I think SFFF also tries to reduce the black color,
thats why the bird is all "silver" in color,
maybe you will have a silver looking bird with
lot of orange?
I think you just have to try

yes it does, and I sure will try!

[cindy]

Right now I have a pair of splits set up Mr. Orange eyebrow has chicks and fawn split to BB or BB waiting to color out....as well as isabels. It is a slow process but worth it.

Dante, according to the estimate you will get splits with a SFFS and a BB. If you are going to get BB why don't you get a pair of BB or split to BB or one BB and a split to BB.

[DanteD716]

Hm, maybe I should get a bb pair. If I do I want to pair a bboffspring with a BC.

[cindy]

ok...if you get a pair of BB (both beig BB not split) and you pair their offsping to a full BC this is what you will get

100% Normal split to Black cheeked & Black breasted

[DanteD716]

Well that is not worth it. What does the white gene control?