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I have babies that are 2 weeks old, and it sounds like there are 1000's of them in the nest. Anyway the dad is a BH WB GB split to blue and the mom is a normal YH. What are the possibilities?
And also have babies from my normal YH male and YH YB with purple & yellow breast female. I hope I am describing this correct. And what are the possibilities here? Thanks in advance.

first pair will give you:
RH/BH/YH.PB/WB.GR and GR/Bb males
BH/YH.PB/WB.GR and GR/Bb hens

not sure I understand your second pair "YH YB with purple & yellow breast female"

Males :
RH/BH/YH PB/WB GB
RH/BH/YH PB/WB GB/BB

Females:
BH/YH PB/WB GB
BH/YH PB/WH GB/BB
This is if there are no recessive traits in your birds that you don't know about.
The males will look like normal Rh greenbacks... you won't know who is split to blue by looking at them, you must breed them to see if they throw blue chicks. The different head colors and breast colors are recessive and will not show in the offsprings.

All hens will have a black head and look normal but will have the recessive traits showing with proper pairing of future chicks.

Here is the calculator.... just punch in the colors of you birds and it will predict the outcome mutations and the percentage.
http://www.amadinagouldove.cz/gouldian- ... /index.php

debbie276 wrote:first pair will give you:
RH/BH/YH.PB/WB.GR and GR/Bb males
BH/YH.PB/WB.GR and GR/Bb hens

not sure I understand your second pair "YH YB with purple & yellow breast female"

This is a pic of her.

http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7833

Candace I am not sure I am putting in the right selection when I use that chart. It is confusing to me when the birds are not normal colors. Especially the purple/lilac choice. I don't get it. I am really genetic challenged. I have no clue.

I believe that the purple/lilac choice is for people who know that their bird is purple breast split to lilac breast. If your bird is just a PB then just select the PB option and don't even think about the lilac.

JRs Gouldians wrote:I believe that the purple/lilac choice is for people who know that their bird is purple breast split to lilac breast. If your bird is just a PB then just select the PB option and don't even think about the lilac.

Thanks

When I bought many of my first gouldians I did not have there background records so I always just put in what the bird looked like. If I had a chicks that didn't fit what the calculator said I knew I had a split recessive trait. The thing is you need both parents to have the same recessive trait to be able to produce a chick that shows it. For example if you have a female with a purple breast/white breast and a male with a purple breast/ white breast then you will get some white breasted chicks even though neither parents show it. But if you pair the female with a male that has just a purple breast you will never know that the female has a recessive gene for white breast.
Yesterday, I got the shock of breeding. I have bred 3 generations of these RH normals and also 3 generations of some Orange head normals.
Well I paired one of my orange headed purple breasted green backed hens with a OH purple breasted dilute from a different breeders and got a silver. I assume there was the /blue in the line all along now but just never paired any with splits. So you can still get surprizes even after breeding them for a while. For 3 generations and with 2 to 3 keepers being set up for breeding they never in the 3 years threw a blue or silver....so I am totally surprized.
So I guess a lot of those plain looking orange heads that I sold were split to blues Hopefully the buyers will be pleasantly surprized

And also have babies from my normal YH male and YH YB with purple & yellow breast female.

second pair, YH.PB.Nb and YH.PB.Yb will give you:
YH.PB.SFYellow males AKA dilutes
YH.PB.Nb hens

debbie276 wrote:

And also have babies from my normal YH male and YH YB with purple & yellow breast female.

second pair, YH.PB.Nb and YH.PB.Yb will give you:
YH.PB.SFYellow males AKA dilutes
YH.PB.Nb hens

What is Nb??? I get all excited when I don't know what something is.

Nb = normal body
I used Nb cause you said normal, here I was thinking you'd understand it better.

debbie276 wrote:Nb = normal body
I used Nb cause you said normal, here I was thinking you'd understand it better.

I thought it possibly meant Neutral Back.

Ha John you made me laugh. I always get all excited when I don't what something is too.