Possible outcomes

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Possible outcomes

Post by Raleighwheels » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:16 am

The next birds that I would eventually try to breed are going to be my societies. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to possible mutation outcomes for the offspring?

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Pirate (crested)
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Pumpkin
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Pair 2

Chippy
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Plum
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I don't know if it will help with anything, but Plum's stomach is darker than Pumpkin's, and she also has two tiny white dots just under her beak.

Plum is next to Pep-Pep
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Re: Possible outcomes

Post by debbie276 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:13 am

Nice looking birds!
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Re: Possible outcomes

Post by kenny » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:05 am

hi
i am sorry to disapoint you,but unless you know the heritage colours back to the grandparents ,you will have to take pot luck as the colours you may expect might not come to fruition,i have bred dark birds together only to get white ones and pied ones in the mix these birds are so diverse in their mating habits that its near impossible to even guess the colour outcome unless as i said you can trace thier parentage and make sure they are not split for any other colours

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Post by Raleighwheels » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:33 am

kenny wrote:hi
i am sorry to disapoint you,but unless you know the heritage colours back to the grandparents ,you will have to take pot luck as the colours you may expect might not come to fruition,i have bred dark birds together only to get white ones and pied ones in the mix these birds are so diverse in their mating habits that its near impossible to even guess the colour outcome unless as i said you can trace thier parentage and make sure they are not split for any other colours

ken
For Chippy and Pirate, they are pet shop birds, so I know they could be carrying anything. The girls are both pearls, but according to the breeder, Plum is split for creamino, which I guess can't happen from what I've read.

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Post by Sally » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:40 am

I agree with kenny, unless you are working with a breeder that has kept clean bloodlines and good records, you may be surprised with what you get in babies. With sex-linked genetics, only the males can be split, hens always either carry the mutation gene, in which case they show the mutation color, or they do not carry the gene at all--in other words, they cannot be split for anything.
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Post by Raleighwheels » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:36 am

Sally wrote:I agree with kenny, unless you are working with a breeder that has kept clean bloodlines and good records, you may be surprised with what you get in babies. With sex-linked genetics, only the males can be split, hens always either carry the mutation gene, in which case they show the mutation color, or they do not carry the gene at all--in other words, they cannot be split for anything.
Thanks for the explanation. I was kind of disappointed when I found that out. I wonder if the breeder even knew about that?

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Re: Possible outcomes

Post by Mozelle » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:05 pm

I'mjust getting things going myself here, but I did find a site that may be some help: if not now then a generation or two down the line:
http://www.zebrafinch.com/societyfinch/

Go through there and click on every link he offers in the society pages. It's not really well set in some areas and there are pages you can't access unless you DO check every page for more links..

Hope it helps!
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Post by Raleighwheels » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:35 pm

Mozelle wrote:I'mjust getting things going myself here, but I did find a site that may be some help: if not now then a generation or two down the line:
http://www.zebrafinch.com/societyfinch/

Go through there and click on every link he offers in the society pages. It's not really well set in some areas and there are pages you can't access unless you DO check every page for more links..

Hope it helps!
Thanks for the link! I saw that page a while ago, but I never read through all of it. I guess now is the right time to do it!

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