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Would a parent and a sibling be more genetically the same compared to two siblings?

or... is it better to breed sibling to sibling or parent to sibling?

I believe the general recommendaton is parent to offspring, rather than sibling to sibling, if you need to breed related finches, because siblings could potentially share 100% of their genetic material.

Are these zebra you are trying to breed to get a certain mutation? I think you pm'd me a while ago in regards to young zebras of different mutation...I have young that are ready to go. Any some shaft tail old enough to be bred.

cindy wrote:Are these zebra you are trying to breed to get a certain mutation? I think you pm'd me a while ago in regards to young zebras of different mutation...I have young that are ready to go. Any some shaft tail old enough to be bred.

Yes I have zebras and am still interested in getting some female florida fancy zebras or a female penguin. But, sadly, I also need a shaftail, since my pet keeper just let me know that one of my new shaftails was found dead. I have to learn about picture taking so I can get help sexing the one that is alive because I want a male and female. I'm heading back to Florida next week so maybe I could arrange an appointment with you then.

My genetics question actually had to do with two blue back gouldians I would like to breed; but I have no idea if they are related. I bought them from West Coast aviary from Felix but he has not e-mailed me back about their relationships (was too dumb to ask at the time). But all my other breeding possibilities leave me with sibling or parental relationships.

cindy wrote:Are these zebra you are trying to breed to get a certain mutation? I think you pm'd me a while ago in regards to young zebras of different mutation...I have young that are ready to go. Any some shaft tail old enough to be bred.

Here is my shaft tail. Can you tell the sex?

This to me looks like a boy. Is he singing?

cindy wrote:This to me looks like a boy. Is he singing?

The Shaftail makes a lot of calling trills and such; so i think of it as singing.

Mom zebra is a pied, dad looks like a normal (hard to say what genes he carries) fawn baby looks like it has flanking...a boy and the pied gray looks to be a possible female.

procfamily wrote: My genetics question actually had to do with two blue back gouldians I would like to breed

It is not recommended to breed two blues together especially closely related ones. Can you buy a split to blue mate?
Maybe try:
http://miami.ebayclassifieds.com/birds/ ... UT_OF_AREA
She is a member of this forum named "Carmena" and I trust her completely! She may have shaft tails also.

Thanks everyone for the information!!! The good news is I heard back from Felix (the breeder) and he said my two blues were not related!

With shaftails there is a BIG difference between the trills and them singing. When they sing it is undeniable. It's bib isn't as big as most of my males so I am going to guess it to be a hen.

http://www.birdbazaar.com/BB-SexDetermination.htm

take a look at this site. they have sound clips for shaft tail and other finches.

thanks cindy! After listening to that tape of a male shaft tail singing, I'm pretty sure this is a male.

The picture you posted is a male...wider bib, it kind o forms like a triangle that is wider at the bottom. Females have more of a smaller rounded bib.