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by LuxandLolita » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:41 pm
I have finally decided that those white feathers on the nape of his neck are indeed a sign of pied. I could not tell if it was just under feathers or what but i think he is indeed split to pied!
you can kinda see it in this pic(lux is dad)

would that explain his extremely white belly?

here is a good pic of it, nape of his neck

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by Vargur » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:53 pm
the grey (or white, cant see it) feathers
on his neck indicate that he was plucked
in this area at some point...
Here is a pictue of one of my hens,
she was plucked and the feathers grew back white.
Aris eating some greens (lettuce) by
Elma_Ben, on Flickr
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by LuxandLolita » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:55 pm
he has had these feathers since he fledged. i thought at first that it was plucking but he has had them for forever... unless they plucked the same area over and over before he fledged..
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by Vargur » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:11 pm
I am sorry, I didnt know you have had him for so long

then yeah, you could be righ, if those feathers are white
he is split pied
I cant see it from my screen, sorry

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by LuxandLolita » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:22 pm
its completely fine

i thought I was wrong haha but yeah, my friend bred them and i got to see him as a baby. i never got to go into the aviary though, so i never saw the parents and i have lost contact with her since then. i think she moved away... the second pic is a better pic though if you can try to see it, don't strain!! haha
what does a really white belly mean?
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by LuxandLolita » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:24 pm
oh and also, the chicks have odd tail bars!! more like dots then bars, and there is a special feather! oh wait.. you already posted on it huh.. oh well, just so excited! i still think whatever the chicks are came from mom though and not dad! or maybe dad is split to something other then pied?? goodness me!
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by DanteD716 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:41 pm
He is not split pied. If he was he would have it on his chin or flight feathers. He could have been plucked in the nest..
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by LuxandLolita » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:46 pm
NO if he IS pied then he will have white flight feathers. i don't know what your definition of pied is but pied means that there is a lack of a certain pigment in certain areas of the feathers. if he had only edged white feathers(1 white flight feather or more) he would be light pied. if he had a lot of white(without a certain mutation) he would be normal pied. if he was almost completely white(without certain mutation) he would be heavy pied. if he had NO colored feathers left(except for MAYBE the tear mark-without certain mutation) then he would be clear pied.
Splits could be anything from
random white feathers on the body
white chin
white flanks in random places
Pied is my favorite mutation and i know almost anything there is to know about pied.....
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by DanteD716 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:09 pm
To identify a split the bird has white on the chin/head area or flight feathers, that's my definition
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by LuxandLolita » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:12 pm
sorry

i wasn't attacking you , but the literal definition is what i said above. if it has white flight feathers then it is pied. that is the definition... if it is split then the flight feathers won't be white but a feather on the head, neck back ect ect white on the chin is a sign of a split
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by DanteD716 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:13 pm
Well I follow Roy's definition
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by LuxandLolita » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:24 pm
I have a pied cockatiel
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by cindy » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:24 pm
These are the guide lines for split to pied zebras
a split to pied looks like this, the bird on the left...
white wing edges
on the right:
White under the chin
on the left
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by DanteD716 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:26 pm
Cindy, I love the split pied fawn

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by LuxandLolita » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:27 pm
according to you guys split is an actual pied feather. i don't get this..
What is your def. of pied?
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Mother to Two Zebra Finches, Lux Interior and Sheena Is. Fly Free Ivy, Lolita, and Tahny Bird. 2 Cockatiels, Ian Curtis and Singerboy("Beo"), 2 Cats, Betty and Buddy, and 5 Ferrets, Lydia Lunch, Leia("Kitten"), Coda, Tubesock and Stiv Bators
Lux Interior is six years old!