Guess Mutation?

[Ichigo]

I have a BC male and a CFW? female. They have 3 new babies that are almost ready to fledge. I was wondering if anyone could tell me what they think they will be. So far they have had 1 BC male, 3 "cream cheeked" males, 3 fawn female, and 2 "silvers". Not a single baby has been a normal grey. As far as I can tell all 3 babies look very much alike, though I can't get a clear shot of them inside the nest.

[finchmix22]

I'm still learning zebra mutations, but the a baby seems to have some fawn coloring in the cheek.

[Ichigo]

Here's a picture of 2/3 babies. Now that I can actually see them they do look a bit different.

[DanteD716]

They are deffinatly split BC! I love the one opn the rights thick tear. The light baby looks fawn? Fawn CFW? We need Cindy

[wellingtoncdm]

The father looks lightback as well.

[Ichigo]

Caught all 3! That one is clearly different then the other two. I like it too. ^.^

[DanteD716]

The dark one is normal/BC. The other two are maybe fawn or fawn CFW /bc??

[wellingtoncdm]

If you breed lightback to cfw you do not get normal greys. You get lightbacks split to cfw males and lightback hens unless the male is also split to cfw then you get cfw and lightback. The male is BC so all babies are split BC unless the hen is split BC then you can get BC and split to BC.
I am new at zebra mutations so someone who knows more may chime in and correct me if I'm wrong.

[Cold R]

Caught all 3! That one is clearly different then the other two. I like it too. ^.^

Yeah the dark one is split to black Ch
Looks like it's going to be a male
Not to sure about the other 2 yet

[wellingtoncdm]

This is a great genetic calculator for zebras.

http://zebrafinch.info/colours/genex.asp

[Ichigo]

Calculator wont really do me much good without knowing exactly what the parents are split to. In my first post I said all the babies that I know they have had... So I can assume the female is split to BC since they produced a BC baby in the past. Other then that they have produced a bunch of different things, none of which look like the parents. How many sets of genetics can one bird carry?!

[Ichigo]

Update on babies! Not that I had any doubt, but one of the babies is a male. I am assuming by this point that the other two are females, as they haven't shown any signs of male markings. The male has pure silver/white cheek patches. Any idea what his mutation is? I know he's hard to see behind the other one... Am I right in assuming the other two are fawns? And could anyone tell me why their beaks are so pale? My other babies have always had bright orange beaks even when they first started to change. The parents (BC and CFW) both have brighter beaks.

[cindy]

The fawns look female but it may be to early to tell the gray male look split to BC.

If they turn out to be female fawns then dad is a BC/fawn. Mom is a fawn and if dad was not split to fawn then you would have only have grays split to BC and Fawn.

Mom fawn Dad BC/fawn

25% fawn/BC males
25% fawn/BC females
25% normal/BC fawn males
25% normal/BC females

[Ichigo]

How can the mom be a fawn? She's pure white other then her tear marks and beige tail bars (CFW). Shes in the first of the 3 pics i just posted. I have no doubt the Dad is BC/Fawn as they have produced Fawn in the past. But they have also produced black cheeked males, cream cheeked males and silvers. So many genetics mixed into these two little birds!

[cindy]

Jamie...due to the first picture she looked to be fawn...I apologize. I am working off my phone and you questioned the CFW..when I saw the first picture it appeared fawn.