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What are these Zebra mutations?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:50 pm
by LittleWings
I'm new to genetics and I haven't seen a lot of finches in person so I was hoping some of you might be able to help me decide what mutation these two pairs are...

I think the lighter pair is Chestnut Flanked White?? And would the darker pair be fawn? Also I see the darker male has some white at the edge of his wings and one of this tail feathers is white, would this make him a pied fawn?

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Re: What are these Zebra mutations?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:59 pm
by DanteD716
2nd pic, female chestnut flanked white in the back, the male is fawn split pied.

You can tell by the white on his tail and wing edges.

In the bottom pic, the male in the back looks CFW maybe English CFW (chestnut flanked white)

The female in the middle looks silver isabel, just like my old silver isabel hen that my grandma has.

the front female looks CFW aslo

Re: What are these Zebra mutations?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:01 pm
by DanteD716
It looked like by your first post you had the Chestnut Flanked White correct, the male fawn split pied, he is not full pied.

I think pairing the two CFW together, and the Fawn with the isabel you will get beautiful chcks, sorry I missed the first post

Re: What are these Zebra mutations?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:08 pm
by cindy
I agree with Dante..good call Dante!

Re: What are these Zebra mutations?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:10 pm
by DanteD716
Thanks Cindy! I am starting to understand the genetics a bit more, especially when BB is NOT involved!!

Re: What are these Zebra mutations?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:37 am
by Cold R
cindy wrote:I agree with Dante..good call Dante!
Yeah Dante got it !

Re: What are these Zebra mutations?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:13 am
by cindy
Dante, split to BB is sometimes hard because you don't always get young that carry it show it. The signs are thin tear but that can mean OB....I usually look for the other markers like orange lacing in the wings, enlarged breasted bar in males!, in females a thin breasted bar line. In males the have enlarged cheek patches with often an orange line (what I call an eyebrow) over the eye. Then there is that hour glass shape in the tail feathers. Some show all these signs while some show one or two or none....especially if more than one mutation is at play.

Re: What are these Zebra mutations?

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:53 am
by DanteD716
Yes, it confuses me with OB and BB, but even more when other mutations are mixed!

Re: What are these Zebra mutations?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:03 am
by Nagdabit
Depending on the area, your one hen might be a Single Factor Florida Fancy. They bear a striking similarity to the Isabel. While the SF/FF are more common here in the states, Isabels have been becoming more prevalent. For more info on the two mutations you can read the following article.

http://efinch.com/species/ffxisabelzeb.htm

Re: What are these Zebra mutations?

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:52 am
by richierick
What Dante said. LOL I agree with Dante