CFW and BC pairing?

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:48 pm

I have a CFW female paired with a BC male. I've consulted a few genetic calculators and I have a question about the babies. The calculators say the babies will be:

50.0% Females - Gray / Black Cheeked 50.0%

Males - Gray / Black Cheeked , CFW

My question is why can't the male CFWs also be split to BC since it's a recessive gene?

I'm trying to breed BC CFWs. Have to start somewhere and this was the pairing a girlfriend gave to me. Now I'm not sure.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:54 pm

CFW is sex link and males carry the gene...the cfw female will give split to CFW males.

The recessive need either a full or split from both parents to make a visual. The way it is written is /BC, CFW it denotes that the bird is split and carries the the BC trait from the father and the CFW trait from the mom. The mom can not pass the CFW trait to the daughters.

If only one parent is a visual (for a recessive gene) the offspring will only be split. Pair a visual BC with a full BC or split to BC female to get all/some offspring that are visual.

Where are you located?

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:58 pm

NJ. Thank you for the explanation. I sort of understand it. So a color that is paired with a sex linked color can't pass on the recessive coloring to the females, right?

So when they have babies, what would I pair up to get CFW BC?

wellingtoncdm · Post by **wellingtoncdm** » Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:11 pm

Pair the male offspring with unrelated CFW hens. The males are split to both CFW and BC. Some of those babies will be CFW/BC. Pair any unrelated CFW/BCs together and you will get some BC CFWs. This takes a few generations and several unrelated pairs to get started.
I am doing the same thing with some BC CFWs from Cindy but adding English and/or European birds to add size. I have one huge lightback/CFW and BC male paired with a American sized BC CFW hen that just had 4 chicks fledge. 3 are BC CFW and one is lightback/BC. Hens are never /CFW, only males can be.
Good luck! They are beautiful birds.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:40 pm

Just curious are you able to find BCs and CFWs easily in NJ?

DanteD716 · Post by **DanteD716** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:17 pm

In NJ and NY both are not hard to come by.. I suggest setting up anothe pair, just like yours with one CFW and one BC. Pair offspring from both pairs and you have BCCFW

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:21 pm

I love my BCCFW, they are quiet and the pairs are all good parents. Good luck with you pairing.

DanteD716 · Post by **DanteD716** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:24 pm

Cindy, I hope to get a pair of the following BC, BC CFW, FAWN BC, and BB, I will house the BC together, and the BB with isabels and maybe OB. Two flights for zebras!

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:39 pm

Sounds good Dante.....for new bloodlines I can try sending eggs again...

DanteD716 · Post by **DanteD716** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:42 pm

This time I want to send you eggs!! These pictures dont do justice but I will be buying from this stock: http://buffalo.ebayclassifieds.com/bird ... d=20927600

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:47 pm

Crested to!

DanteD716 · Post by **DanteD716** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:48 pm

I know, she has a bit of everything! And my uncle told me the founder of ICFS (the people hosting the show) has all kinds of finches and colors you can imagne Ihe only knows the name of owls, gouldians, zebras, societies, and javas, he has so much to learn yet!) so I can only imagine what she will bring! She has all my uncles stock!

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