Mom, Dad and their baby??????

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:42 pm

Hi. My birds are so camera shy! Mom and Dad: I thought were gray/pieds. But they producted this baby with bl cks? Not sure. Now looking at mom I don't know what I have. Think I've been looking at colors too long. The dad is a normal/pied, right? What is mom and baby. Baby looks like mom but darker cheeks? Can you just confirm I at least got the dad right? Thank a million.

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:24 pm

I have a PS. question:

I have been reading my head off since posting and think I figured some of it out.

Mom is definately split to BC. Dad definately split to pied (has white where a "collar" is on back of head-can't see in pics), and BC since a bc baby born.

They had the one baby hatch and this bc baby is lighter (can't tell by pics) than the other bc's I have. The feathers go from body to tip, dark to lighter. So can C baby be split to pied? Is there such a thing?
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If mom is split to BC and dad split to BC and pied the babies will be?

greys
BC
greys/BC (can they also be split to pied if only one parent is split to pied?)

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:07 pm

Hope someone answers soon. I'm answering my own questions and talking to myself through type!! LOL.

Just had another thought. Could the mom be a grey split to one of the lighter zebra colorings? Or is she not a true grey or is her coloring a sign of a split to something more?

So sorry. I've asked alot of q's today. Being in hosp. and now home recuping I came straight here and have a months worth of q's.

I had my daughter taking care of finches and she "accepted" this pair in my absence and had a baby. I wish I could say I'd like to strangle her but I just love these little guys. The baby could melt butter for me.

I'm up just enough to take over bird duties. Believe it or not, you get bored not doing them. I've had a month off and been going crazy. I'm home 24 hours and already done all the birds, been here about 300 times.

Now I have a food dilema I have to work on. I usually buy my seed at the local farm but they don't deliver or mail. I need to buy bulk seed. Any suggestions? Different topic. Probably should have asked under a different heading. Just another of my q's from being away from my kids.

Vargur · Post by **Vargur** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:49 pm

the baby looks like it is bc and bf!

if the mom is split bc and dad, then the baby will be split bc or full bc.
pied is recessive so , the chicks will be split pied.
BF is dominant, one of the parents must be a carrier for the mutation.
could you get a better close up of the chick?

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:22 pm

Gulp! A better pic??? It only took me 6 months to learn how to get a clear pic. LOL. Actually I'm back cause they threw off a chick (I've had to move eggs that parents weren't sitting on and darned if I know what parents threw this baby. I'm pretty sure it has to be this pair. Don't have any other colors that would throw this off. I know how to look for a pied and BC split but what do you look for for a BF split?
If BF is dominant what does that mean as far as baby colors go. Can the mom alone throw off a BF???

Here is the pic of the other baby this pair is taking care of. I nearly dropped my draws when I saw a white chick but (and don't ask for another pic, please, I beg you. Trust me when I say).....both sides have very faint black cheek patches!! I'm positive. Is that a.........? I don't know. CFWBC?

debbie276 · Post by **debbie276** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:29 pm

Adorable!

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:45 pm

OMG!!! I HATE TAKING PICS, REALLY!!! But I did. Not so hot but since you asked I just took out the third baby and now you can see what all 3 chicks are. I think now it's 2 BCBF and one CFWBC?

Ok, now I'm just dying to know. Someone has to tell me. How did I do this???? I'm so excited!!!

Now I just have to learn the abbreviations in the right order!! lol

Vargur · Post by **Vargur** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:47 pm

lol

its sure does to have some kind of cheeks. (bc)
Very pretty!!
looks like a boy

here is one of my ccfw bc when she was young

Vargs - Kvenfugl undan Mána og Dís. by Elma_Ben, on Flickr

it does not matter if the male or the female is split (a carrier) for BF.
but you should not mate two BF together.

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:51 pm

I've heard that you shouldn't breed two BC together. Right or wrong. Why shouldn't you breed them together? I'm now new at a mutation and haven't even figured out what I thought I already knew!! lol

PS. How did you do that???? How do you know it may be a boy? Is it a genetic thing?

Vargur · Post by **Vargur** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:53 pm

no, they are all BC,
the baby I thougt was also bf is not, i can see it now from this picture.
it has white between its beak and cheeks, right?

thanks for the pictures!

and congrats on your BC chicks!!

its okey to breed bc to bc.
but not very related birds.

some say bf to bf is leathal.
some say not.

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:54 pm

debbie276 wrote: Adorable!

Debbie,
Thank you. I feel overwhelmed with my new mutation in the house. I have no idea what to do with them come breeding time. Any suggestions will be gladly accepted.

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:57 pm

Vargur wrote: no, they are all BC,
the baby I thougt was also bf is not, i can see it now from this picture.
it has white between its beak and cheeks, right?

thanks for the pictures!
and congrats on your BC chicks!!

its okey to breed bc to bc.
but not very related birds.

some say bf to bf is leathal.
some say not.

Boy do you have a great eye or what??? I had to use a magnifying glass! Yes, you are right. The slightest of white and also just under the beak. So if there was no white at all it would have also been a BF?

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:00 pm

Ok, another question. How did I get a white colored chick out of this? It's a BC right? What do you breed this with. I don't even know what it is.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:39 pm

The babies all look good. The BC CFW is adorable, dad must be split to CFW. Chance are the baby is a hen. CFW is sex slinked and dad carries the gene. If he is not mated with a visual CFW hen then his offspring will be girls.

love4finches · Post by **love4finches** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:09 pm

cindy wrote: The babies all look good. The BC CFW is adorable, dad must be split to CFW. Chance are the baby is a hen. CFW is sex slinked and dad carries the gene. If he is not mated with a visual CFW hen then his offspring will be girls.

I actually understood that! Yeah. Something is sinking in. My for BC CFW. I have to admit I love all my fur babies but this one holds a special place in my heart. Guess cause she's the first one. Thank you.

PS. Just a thought. I find it unusual that a pair of parents both splits gave me all babies BC in different colors. This is my very first experience with actually getting a surprise. I am so hooked. I'll never be realled in.

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