ID plz!!

ali.munir · Post by **ali.munir** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:44 am

Can someone ID my finches wthe reason for their identification so i could learn, most of them have been purchesed on the looks. I am new to this hobby and still learning.
Pair 1
Male ( u also can see the female on the top branch)

Female

Sorry for the pic, will post a better one if required

This pair have babies in nest, i havnt checked them can someone predict the outcome?

Pair. 2

They r on eggs, what will be the outcome of this pair??

Also can someone point me to another good site, beside efinch, where i could learn more about zebra mutations??
Thnx in advance, i hope im not being annoying wth all these gentics,pairing and color questions

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:02 am

I need to know where you are located... not every country has the same mutations.

when you ask for zebra to be ID'd some mutations and splits can be identified by specific markers in the tail.... The CFW can either be a Regular CFW or Continental CFW.... difference is n the color of the back and tail

The BB... there are two markers for a split that shows n the tail, one marker for a full visual

the OB splits can often be identified by markers in the tail, chest and in hens the flanking.

Clear pictures will help.... and please provide your location

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:09 am

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The CFW... I need to see the back and tail to determine if it is CCFW or CFW

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:16 am

country you are in will help....

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cindy · Post by **cindy** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:22 am

country of origin and tail and flank picture on male needed

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lnlovesorange · Post by **lnlovesorange** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:15 pm

I know I always say it, but I love cindy.... you just amaze me!!
BTW ali.munir Beautiful birds. Looks like they are in an outdoor aviary? That's lovely, I wish I lived in a more stable climate so that my birds could get Real sunlight instead of "bulb sun" lol. But congrats on the new birds, they are lovely. And Cindy knows her stuff (as I'm sure you can see) So you are in good hands!!! Good luck with the new birds, and the clutches, I'm sure they will make beautiful lil birdlings!!!

ali.munir · Post by **ali.munir** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:11 am

Thankyou cindy your knowledge about finches is amazing, i wish i visit your country someday and meet you in person. I live in Lahore,Pakistan.Most of the birds are imported but now the imported stock has been breeding for 2/3 years.
@lnlovesorange thankyou, i am also in love with my birds and i wish i can take good care of them and breed some amazing colors

.its a big cage ( 5*4 ft) and i have placed some potted plants in it, the birds love them.i am planning to build a much larger aviary sometime later next month.Yes we do get all the four season in a year but our summers are VERY HOT temprature climbing to 110F+.
cindy about the Pair 1
This is the male with his tail markings

And this is the female

Pair 2

Female

Male

From another angle

About the hen that you have labeled as BB, here are is another pic of this hen can you confirm if its BB?

She has mated with this male

Can you predict the outcome??

Also can you plz suggest pairing for my pair 2, i want to extend and enhance the orange of the male in the offsprings.
Thanks a million. You guys are making this hobby a passion!!

ali.munir · Post by **ali.munir** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:11 am

Sorry the last two pics got mixed up...here they are :

Female

Male

This is a black cheek male, but it alao has black face as you can see in the pic. His breast is also black and extends towards his vent.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:55 am

The descriptions are on the pictures for you.... the lightback is split to BB see the notches in the tail bars, elongated flank spots and irregular cheek patches

Your BBOB is a Full BBOB

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:03 am

the FS or silver Isabel depends on what you have in your country... they will give you the same results when combined with BB

ali.munir · Post by **ali.munir** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:02 pm

Thnx very much cindy. I want to ask abt the outcome of my BB OB male cross wth the split to pied(possibaly to BB)...i want to enhance the orrange, is it the right combo for it?

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:31 pm

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my suggested pairing would be the FS and the BBOB for stunning offspring

ali.munir · Post by **ali.munir** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 4:06 pm

Thnx cindy for all the details.i am looking to engance and extend the orange of my BBOB, will combining it with the silver Isabel achieve this purpose?

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:23 pm

that I would do is breed the silver with the BBOB and then take the best mark offspring.... while they are breeding pair your BF with your BB hen.... take the best marked offspring from the two pairs and match them up for the best results.... I can help you as you go!!

Ideally it is best to use a double factor FF or full Isabel with your BBOB.

cindy · Post by **cindy** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:30 pm

see if you can find a FFOBBB or Isabel BBOB look for a tail like this. You can work with splits, it will take you a little longer but your best bet is working with a male and female that are not split. (Your offspring from the FS and BBOB are going to be split to OBBB.

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see also if you can find a male like this it is BFBBOBFF

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