A fawn?
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A fawn?
Hi,
Wherever I read about the owl finches, they say they have blueish-greying dark legs. But my hen actually has pink legs. I know they say owl fawns (which is a mutation) often has pink leg and a lighter shade to their colours. But my hen doesn't have the lighter shade, just the pink legs. Is she considered a fawn anyways?
What is strange thought is that from what I read about this mutation, only the male can display a ''split'' mutation, while the hen can only appear normal or fawn.
Wherever I read about the owl finches, they say they have blueish-greying dark legs. But my hen actually has pink legs. I know they say owl fawns (which is a mutation) often has pink leg and a lighter shade to their colours. But my hen doesn't have the lighter shade, just the pink legs. Is she considered a fawn anyways?
What is strange thought is that from what I read about this mutation, only the male can display a ''split'' mutation, while the hen can only appear normal or fawn.
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Re: A fawn?
That is very interesting. Unfortunately, I don't know the answer. I hope someone else does.
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strawberries 1 pr, 2 F
gold-breasted waxbill 2 pr
cordon bleu blue capped, 2 pr, 1 M
cordon bleu red cheeked M
red-faced starfinch M
yellow faced starfinch M
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gouldian red head norm. M, yellow white breast M
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canary, gloster, corona, blue pied, M
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Mary
zebras
societies
strawberries 1 pr, 2 F
gold-breasted waxbill 2 pr
cordon bleu blue capped, 2 pr, 1 M
cordon bleu red cheeked M
red-faced starfinch M
yellow faced starfinch M
Melodious Cuban finch M
gouldian red head norm. M, yellow white breast M
green singer M
canary, gloster, corona, blue pied, M
cut-throat 1 pr & 1 M
- MiaCarter
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Re: A fawn?
Dokh - That's a great question!
I've never seen a normal owl finch with pink legs and the only split to fawn males I've had had lighter grey legs (definitely not the fawn pink....although the split to fawn males I had were brothers, so they wouldn't be a good example of genetic possibilities for leg colors in split-to-fawns.) But it's possible that some could have a more pinkish tone. (Albeit not as pink as a true fawn)
As a sex-linked mutation, females can't be split - just as you acknowledged.
My guess would be that you have...
- a split to fawn MALE (perhaps he's just young and hasn't started acting male yet)
- a fawn FEMALE with feather color that's simply darker than usual for a fawn.
I've never seen a normal owl finch with pink legs and the only split to fawn males I've had had lighter grey legs (definitely not the fawn pink....although the split to fawn males I had were brothers, so they wouldn't be a good example of genetic possibilities for leg colors in split-to-fawns.) But it's possible that some could have a more pinkish tone. (Albeit not as pink as a true fawn)
As a sex-linked mutation, females can't be split - just as you acknowledged.
My guess would be that you have...
- a split to fawn MALE (perhaps he's just young and hasn't started acting male yet)
- a fawn FEMALE with feather color that's simply darker than usual for a fawn.
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13 Zebra Finches....and 2 squeeps!
3 Society Finches
6 Gouldians
1 Weaver
1 Pintail Whydah
2 Cockatiels
2 Parakeets
....along with 1 MinPin, 1 Pug, 1 JRT, 1 Yorkie, 2 Chihuahuas and 15 cats.
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Re: A fawn?
MiaCarter
Thanks for your answer,
Yeah maybe it's simply a fawn with a darker shade to her feather even though she has exactly the same shade than a normal owl. But for your other option, it is without a doubt a female she had several clutches already, she even was eggbound once but she's fine now.
I'll try to provide a picture anytime soon of her with her bonded male who is normal for comparison of the shades.
Thanks for your answer,
Yeah maybe it's simply a fawn with a darker shade to her feather even though she has exactly the same shade than a normal owl. But for your other option, it is without a doubt a female she had several clutches already, she even was eggbound once but she's fine now.
I'll try to provide a picture anytime soon of her with her bonded male who is normal for comparison of the shades.
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Re: A fawn?
I was just gunna say can you post a picture?!!!! Not that I know genetics AT ALL (i actually learned quite a bit when my Zebras had their clutch, but Biology Major, Genetics Genious I AM NOT), let alone Owl genetics.... however I LOVE Owl Finches... I can't wait til I can get a pair... so I'm more or less just been greedy, because I want to see your beautiful baby!!!! LOL good luck with the genetics though!
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Re: A fawn?
Dokh
Yes pictures please! I also love to look at owls and hope to have some soon.
Yes pictures please! I also love to look at owls and hope to have some soon.
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Mary
zebras
societies
strawberries 1 pr, 2 F
gold-breasted waxbill 2 pr
cordon bleu blue capped, 2 pr, 1 M
cordon bleu red cheeked M
red-faced starfinch M
yellow faced starfinch M
Melodious Cuban finch M
gouldian red head norm. M, yellow white breast M
green singer M
canary, gloster, corona, blue pied, M
cut-throat 1 pr & 1 M
Mary
zebras
societies
strawberries 1 pr, 2 F
gold-breasted waxbill 2 pr
cordon bleu blue capped, 2 pr, 1 M
cordon bleu red cheeked M
red-faced starfinch M
yellow faced starfinch M
Melodious Cuban finch M
gouldian red head norm. M, yellow white breast M
green singer M
canary, gloster, corona, blue pied, M
cut-throat 1 pr & 1 M
- jamezyboo21
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Re: A fawn?
I want to see pics too!!
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Re: A fawn?
Yes, sorry won't be so long, by girlfriend has the cell and she's gone on vacation, I'll provide during the weekend ^^
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