Is my juvenile gouldian fully colored out?

Smurf · Post by **Smurf** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:02 pm

Still a long way to go to be fully coloured, going by parents chick is most likely a BH PB Dilute Cock

debbie276 · Post by **debbie276** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:20 pm

Smurf wrote: Still a long way to go to be fully coloured, going by parents chick is most likely a BH PB Dilute Cock

Definitely a SF pastel but I do believe a BH YTB or YH

carcoozie · Post by **carcoozie** » Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:14 pm

I will have to check out mom's beak color when I get home - thanks!

Gouldiandave · Post by **Gouldiandave** » Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:04 pm

All young birds moult different, some start early a fly tru it
Others take longer to start etc, although that gouldian staering late u may find it gets through it quickly

carcoozie · Post by **carcoozie** » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:09 pm

debbie276 Mom's beak is definitely yellow tipped. So what does that mean for his head? Also, just out of curiosity- my juvenile girl's beak is blackish - does that mean anything?
Thanks everyone for your help!

debbie276 · Post by **debbie276** » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:34 pm

If it is yellow then she is genetically a YH so she is a BH YTB

Yellow head (YH) is an autosomal recessive trait, but also requires at least one red head gene to be present in order to be expressed. If two yellow head genes are present on a bird that has no red head genes (and instead has black head genes), the bird will have a black head with a yellow tipped beak (YTB). This occurs because the bird is genetically a yellow headed bird, but it cannot express the yellow color because the yellow gene depends on the red head gene for expression, and the red head gene is not there.

All male chicks will be YH/BH and all hens will be YH

Juveniles beaks are black till they finish their adult molt.

carcoozie · Post by **carcoozie** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:35 pm

debbie276 - sorry, I am just not getting this - I apologize. You state that all male chicks will be YH/BH and all hens will be YH - but my juvenile hen is BH. OR (may have just figured this out) - you're saying the juvenile hen is a YH, but looks like a BH cause she doesn't have a red gene (even though dad is a YH)?
So confused.
Thank goodness they're all pretty!

Post by **lovezebs** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:46 pm

carcoozie

How is your little guy doing? Showing any colour yet?

carcoozie · Post by **carcoozie** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:19 pm

lovezebs, he is pretty much the same. He looks to have something going on on the side of his face, but only got a quick glance this morning and will check more when I get home tonight.
Thanks for checking!

Post by **lovezebs** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:22 pm

carcoozie

Hope it's nothing bad.

carcoozie · Post by **carcoozie** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:05 pm

lovezebs

This is the best picture I could get. It looks like blotchy black showing through, so I would think molting into a black head, but he is a dilute, so can't he not express black? Also, no pin.feathers. He seems fine otherwise.

debbie276 · Post by **debbie276** » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:02 pm

Looks like thinning feathers and not a normal molt in the picture. There should be pins feathers galore on the head. He also has a yellow tipped beak if I'm seeing the colors correctly which means he is a YH or BH YTB (Black Head Yellow Tipped Beak)

carcoozie · Post by **carcoozie** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:06 pm

He seems ok other than that - is there something that I need to be giving him?

Post by **lovezebs** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:20 pm

carcoozie

The feathers on his head and face, look a little odd. Not sure what's going on there.

I would offer eggs and greens along with his good quality seed mix. I would also grate some iodine block and add it to their bird grit, and offer a bit daily. Personally, I would add a couple of drops of birdie vitamins to their drinking water as well.

SocietyBird · Post by **SocietyBird** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:19 pm

He's so beautiful! Really amazing to see these pictures.

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