Dilute and the genetic calculator

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kyle
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Dilute and the genetic calculator

Post by kyle » Tue May 31, 2016 9:38 pm

Hi all, I recently got two new Goulds both are dilute. Looking on the genetic calculator I realized there was no option for dilute. I am assuming dilute is considered single factor yellow genetically? because both are purple breasted they cannot express the same yellow as a white breasted bird?
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Re: Dilute and the genetic calculator

Post by debbie276 » Tue May 31, 2016 10:07 pm

A dilute is only found in Australia. What you have is a SFPastel, If it was WB it would be visually yellow body.
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long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: Dilute and the genetic calculator

Post by kyle » Tue May 31, 2016 11:19 pm

debbie276
Thanks Debbie. I'm a little bit confused everything I've read about pastel refers to Blue pastel. Whenever I come across a green yellow mix they refer to it as dilute. Where am I going wrong?
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Re: Dilute and the genetic calculator

Post by debbie276 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:48 am

Many years ago people started calling the SF Pastel "dilute" and the SF Pastel Blue "pastel". There is a mutation in Australia that is a true Dilute with totally different genes then the SF Pastel. Another example is the "silver" which is a made up term for the Pastel Blue.
It can get rather confusing at times.

Your birds are SF Pastel meaning they only have one Pastel gene so the body is a lighter green then normal and all black areas are grey. If a male bird has two pastel genes the body would be yellow in color and all black areas white because the Pastel gene blocks the color black.
Debbie
long time breeder of lady gouldians:
Green
SF Pastel (SF Yellow)
Pastel (Yellow)
Blue
SF Pastel Blue (SF Yellow Blue)
Pastel Blue (Yellow Blue)

GREAT articles on avian lighting:
https://mickaboo.org/confluence/downloa ... ummary.pdf
http://www.naturallighting.com/cart/sto ... sc_page=56

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Re: Dilute and the genetic calculator

Post by Haider » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:01 am

http://www.gouldianfinches.eu/en/geneti ... a/english/

here is a calculator with the option for you Dilute male

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