Is this hen pied?

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Is this hen pied?

Post by sparrowsong98 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:25 pm

Hi
I thought I had a pied hen, but a couple days ago I noticed a large white patch at the tail base. So I was wondering if she was pied
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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by cindy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:53 pm

No.... based on that picture... need to see her head and the rest of her body. The white on the rump is normal

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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by cindy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:56 pm

pied usually starts on the wing edges, top of the head, under the chin... some refer to those markings as split to pied.

full pied results in more color removed from the face head, chest body.... the tail and middle of the back are typically the last few places on the birds to loose color.

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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by cindy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:02 pm

these are fawn zebras...you can see the rump is white. not a pied marker
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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by cindy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:03 pm

Zebras with white wing edges are considered split to pied
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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by sparrowsong98 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:12 pm

cindy She has one wing feather with white on one edge. What does that mean?
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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by cindy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:18 pm

Does she have a white patch under the chin?

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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by cindy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:20 pm

Can you get a picture of the area with white? Typically with splits it shows as white wing edges on both wings.

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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by sparrowsong98 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:43 am

cindy if you look on the upper half of the picture, it is the feather closest to the gap between her two wings.
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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by cindy » Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:43 am

usually the pied split marker is on the outer part of the wing... that feather could have grown in white either due to not getting certain nutrients when feed out by parents or the feather base was damaged as it developed... birds plucked or suffering damage from plucking, injury, infection to the skin/feather follicle can often grow out white feathers.... I would watch this area when she molts out to see if it is replaced with a gray feather since she is eating on her own and getting nutrients.

Had this happen with goldbreasted waxbills... provided them the egg food, mealies... they refused both and fed seed only and the one youngster fledged with white blotches, white edges to certain feathers... once eating and choosing her own food including egg food she molded and colored out properly...

I asked earlier...curious does she have a white patch under her chin/lower beak?

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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by sparrowsong98 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:55 pm

cindy Oh no. That was the only spot in question
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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by cindy » Fri Aug 25, 2017 7:14 pm

A bird can be split to pied without showing any visual markers.

Do you have the parents? What are the mutations?

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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by sparrowsong98 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:07 am

cindy I do not. This is my first pair. I would like to now, just to see, but these birds came from the petsmart.
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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by cindy » Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:28 pm

The supplier the birds come form for PetSmart likely does not breed for mutations.... bought a fawn there many yrs ago and he carried Orange breast and Black Breast. Some I notice carry pied.... have seen CFW in PetSmart!!!

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Re: Is this hen pied?

Post by sparrowsong98 » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:33 pm

cindy Oh I wish i had your petsmart. Mine has never had anything but grey. No pied, no white, just grey. It does have many good societies, I see many fawns and crested. Sometimes, there are even selfs.
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