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Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:36 am
by yeuxmorts
I got two young juvenile zebra finches from a friend. Back then, we didn't know what sex they were because of their age. Now they're both 7 1/2 months old and I am entirely sure they're both male because they both have a black breast bar, the speckled feathers, red beaks and they both sing a lot. (Plus I have never found an egg once) Anyway, one of them was the most unique in the whole clutch. He's was mostly white with some black details, I assumed he was of the pied variation but I'm not a finch genetics expert. His brother grew cheek patches, as well as the markings I listed. But my pied guy never grew his cheek patches. He went through the slow progressive moult process just as his brother, but the cheek feathers just grew back white except one tiny spot on one side. He's definitely a boy though, he straightens his body up cutely as they do to sing. My question is, is this a common occurrence? The lack of cheek patches in a male. I've searched about it before but I couldn't find anything. [-X I also know of the chance of some society finch being in their mothers line, but I can't verify that. Thanks!

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:01 pm
by Sheather
It's a pure, normal pied zebra finch. The pied markings in his case simply cover the cheeks, preventing the orange coloration from showing.

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:55 pm
by lovezebs
yeuxmorts

Welcome to the Forum from Canada,

Pretty bird.
There are some mutations, that simply don't show the cheek patches,so no worries.

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:44 pm
by Fraza
He is a male because he got white in him stick a female in and eggs will appear in minutes :D

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:20 pm
by lem2bert
yeuxmorts

Hi from Massachusetts. I do not have much knowledge about zebras. I just wanted to say that I love the contrast of the black and white feathers with that bright red beak !! Beautiful !! :)

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:04 pm
by GoldPanther
Man that bird is beautiful.
How come this one came out like that being son of two zebras? Is this the result of inbreed? Is this bird considered society finch now?
Sorry for high jack the thread...

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:40 pm
by Sheather
GoldPanther it's a pied zebra finch, similar to what I wrote in your post about your all white finch.

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:44 pm
by yeuxmorts
Thanks everyone for your responses. No, he isn't the product of inbreeding. Just won the genetic lottery I guess. Glad everyone likes him, he's a very special bird to me, as well as his brother. I was told his mother has some society finch in her. However she looks like a normal zebra finch, light peach beige in colour. That's about all I know about how a finch that looks this way was bred.

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:05 pm
by GoldPanther
Sheather wrote: GoldPanther it's a pied zebra finch, similar to what I wrote in your post about your all white finch.
Yeah, I wrote this before I i read your reply on the other thread, thanks.

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:15 am
by Fraza
It is very nice how ever I can't see anything indicating that it has society finch in it

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:01 am
by haroun
Hi very nice pied cok
BtW zebra x soc=infertil hybrid

Re: Male zebra finch cheeks never appeared?

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:07 am
by Fraza
haroun there has been proof that it doesn't always equal infertile eggs I just can't see anything to indicate it has society in it