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Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:12 pm
by Flight Feathers
Here is one my friends gorgeous fawn pied finch she bred herself. I was taking some photos of it today when I suddenly noticed the "hour glass" shape of her finches tail. I have never seen any finches with a tail like this- What does this mean?

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:02 pm
by Flight Feathers
As you can see, the cheek patch kind of gets fainter.

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:32 am
by Flight Feathers
haroun , do you think it's split to anything?

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:20 pm
by haroun
Flight Feathers Hi
In the first pics i don't see any hour glass shape, can u take and uploadnew pic of the tail more colser ?!
Hour glass shape mean that the bird is split for Black Breast mutation , another sign wich i can partial is the thin tear drop.
The bird is pied fawn male with lot orange lacing in the back and wing. We more closer eed tail bars and front pics
An old post http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php ... 7&start=15

And this one is identic to ur bird except it is not a pied

http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35704

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:14 pm
by Flight Feathers
haroun thanks, I thought hour glass was the shape of the tail but turns out its the tail bars, so it doesn't have hour glass spots. Yes it is odd how it has orange lacing on its wings and how the cheek patch fades. Also it has a thin tear line and the flank spots change Color half way.
Does the shape of the tail have anything to do with it also? What do you think it is split to?

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:23 pm
by Flight Feathers
Here's closer pic or tail.

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:58 pm
by Flight Feathers
You can't see the colors very well in this pic but you can see the cheek patch and thin tear line.

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:44 pm
by haroun
No hour glass shape nor orange lacing in the tail, 100% he is not /OB, could stay /Bb.
Another pics of thz dots and the breast, is the breast also fade ?

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:09 pm
by Flight Feathers
haroun wrote: No hour glass shape nor orange lacing in the tail, 100% he is not /OB, could stay /Bb.
Another pics of thz dots and the breast, is the breast also fade ?
Okay thanks! What about split to fawn cheek? And it could be split bb? Just not ob split then?

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:09 pm
by Flight Feathers
Why does the cheek patch fade out?

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:30 pm
by haroun
Flight Feathers wrote:
haroun wrote: No hour glass could nor orange lacing in the tail, 100% he is not /OB, could stay /Bb. I
Another pics of thz dots and the breast, is the breast also fade ?
Okay thanks! What about split to fawn cheek? And it could be split bb? Just not ob split then?
Cheeked(grey or fawn) is dominante no split for. yes it could be /BB. Are u in the states, why i ask because the Ffsf mutation this is why i alsi asked about his breast pic!
The remainig cheek patches are them same colors as those one (Fc isabel and fawn fawncheek lb...)

http://www.finchforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36036

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:53 pm
by Flight Feathers
Sorry I cannot say but thanks!

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:54 pm
by Flight Feathers
I will see if we can get more pics.

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:57 pm
by Flight Feathers
Here is a pic I had I'm just unsure if the lighting makes it looks different but will try and get more pics sometime.

Re: Hour glass shape tail?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:59 pm
by Flight Feathers
Another pic- very blurry sorry.