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Hi everyone,

I have 3 fawn pied Bengalese finches. 1 male, 1 female and 1 I’m unsure of but I hope it to be a female. The male is a fawn pied, the female is a crested fawn pied and the one I’m unsure of is a fawn pied. What color babies will I get?

There are pics attached of my finches below.

Flight Feathers the bottom roght pied seems like a female

Flight Feathers and I think you will get crested pieds

Fraza wrote: Flight Feathers the bottom roght pied seems like a female

How do you tell? That’s the one the breeder thinks to be a female but doesn’t know for sure.

Fraza wrote: Flight Feathers and I think you will get crested pieds

Okay yeah I was thinking the same. Would I be able to get any other colors?

Flight Feathers I doubt it to get others you would need a brown pied or something or a grey

Sometimes you can get a brown like this if one of there parents where brown : https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/ac/aa ... fc60e1.jpg

Fraza wrote: Flight Feathers I doubt it to get others you would need a brown pied or something or a grey

Sometimes you can get a brown like this if one of there parents where brown : https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/ac/aa ... fc60e1.jpg

Oh okay, what about recessive colors?

Flight Feathers I’m not sure I know the grey is recessive but I not good in this way icestrom onows

Fraza wrote: Flight Feathers I’m not sure I know the grey is recessive but I not good in this way icestrom onows

Oh okay I hope I can get some other colors then!

Fraza wrote: Flight Feathers the bottom roght pied seems like a female

That one just started singing this morning. Looks like I’ve got two boys and 1 girl.

Flight Feathers really ohwell I suppose males are supposed to be better Rearig chicks so not that bad

Fraza wrote: Flight Feathers really ohwell I suppose males are supposed to be better Rearig chicks so not that bad

Yeah annoying tho because two females would give me more eggs although I can always get some Zebs eggs.

Flight Feathers wrote:

Fraza wrote: Flight Feathers really ohwell I suppose males are supposed to be better Rearig chicks so not that bad

Yeah annoying tho because two females would give me more eggs although I can always get some Zebs eggs.

Will one male get left out?

Flight Feathers no he won’t they will all stick together only one Male with breed with her but they will all still huddle up together it’s really strange when you compare them to zebs cos a trio could definelty not work but with these guys u will see

And Yh this way u can get an extra clutch out of your zebs cos you can foster a clutch under the society’s with the society clutch together

Flight Feathers

Fawn is the most recessive of all the base colors, so the babies will be fawn.

It's hard to know for sure, but I'm guessing that all of your birds are single-factor pied, as they only have a little bit of white. If that is true, here's a punnet square of the breeding results:

P= pied (codominant)
p= self (recessive)
(Having to use "..." for formatting.)

.....P.....p < single-factor pied parent
P...PP...Pp
p...Pp..pp
^single-factor pied parent

25% double-factor pieds (PP); these will probably be around 50% white. 50% single-factor pieds (Pp); these will probably look like your current birds. 25% self (pp); these will not have white patches.
Crested birds almost always are split/heterogeneous to non-crested, as a double-factor crested birds tend to have feather problems. As a result, two crested birds should not be bred to each other.
Crested is dominant, so 50% of the offspring will be crested:

C= crested allele
c= non-crested allele

.....C....c <crested parent
c...Cc...cc
c...Cc...cc
^ non-crested parent


Taken all together, the results will probably be:
12.5% crested fawn double-factor pied
12.5% non-crested fawn double-factor pied
25% crested fawn single-factor pied
25% non-crested fawn single-factor pied
12.5% non-crested fawn self
12.5% crested fawn self

It's unlikely that your birds have hidden alleles like ino, grey, or red-brown, but if they do, that complicates things quite a lot. I don't feel like doing the calculations for that, though
here's an earlier thread where I discussed ino inheritance: Grey Society Finch

Edit: Whoops, thought one of your males, not the female, was crested. Fixed that.