Gouldian hens

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:33 pm

I have here two gouldian hens that I caught up this week. They are being sold, but once I got a closer look at them I was quite surprised at the difference in their head colors. I am not sure if you can tell the difference in the picture. They are from the same clutch. I am soooo not into genetics, but was just surprised. All 7 of these babies are different. BTW, the cock you see is their brother!

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:53 pm

Looks like an orange head female and a red head female - nice!

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:01 pm

L in Ontario wrote:Looks like an orange head female and a red head female - nice!

Red? I thought they were both orange heads.

See, I told you I know nothing about genetics. The dad is an orange head. Mom is black......

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:06 pm

Did you enter the parent's information in the Genetic Forecaster?

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:08 pm

L in Ontario wrote:Did you enter the parent's information in the Genetic Forecaster?

You did that for me Liz back when they were first born. It said nothing about a red .......

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:09 pm

Can you give me the info again?

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:16 pm

L in Ontario wrote: Can you give me the info again?

Dad is oh/pb/yb that is split to blue.
Mom is bh/pb/nb.....

There were six in the clutch. The three you see in the picture, an oh/wb/yb, a dilute oh/pb... and not sure of the other yet.

DVBourassa · Post by **DVBourassa** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:45 pm

Donna and I have been talking about the genetics of the parents. I'll be picking up the Beautiful male you see in the picture Saturday.

Dad is oh/pb/yb that is split to blue. Mom is bh/pb/nb.

I concluded that Dad must be lilac breast instead of purple breast because he is yellow back and is able to produce green back male offspring. Therefore he must have SF yellow and SF green back genes. With a purple breast this would make him dilute but with lilac or white breast he is yellow.

I'm new at thinking about gouldian genetics so please correct me if I'm mistaken.

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:09 pm

I'm missing something here - I cannot get a green backed gouldian to come up as possible offspring in the forecaster. Are you "sure" the YB is the father? Even with a lilac breast instead of purple I still get all yellows...

What are you hiding from me - another male hiding in the aviary?

DVBourassa · Post by **DVBourassa** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:33 pm

L in Ontario wrote:I'm missing something here - I cannot get a green backed gouldian to come up as possible offspring in the forecaster. Are you "sure" the YB is the father? Even with a lilac breast instead of purple I still get all yellows...

What are you hiding from me - another male hiding in the aviary?

Which genetic forecaster are you using?
The one titled Gouldian Colors doesn't have a lilac breast option.
On the one from Carlos Matos I have
Male Head Red no, Black split, Orange yes, then Lilac breast, White split, then Back Green no, Yellow SF, Blue split
Female Head Black Orange split, Breast Purple, White split, Back Green

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:41 pm

I use the one from Carlos M.

64 results?! Holy cow! You've got the whole colour spectrum in there now! LOL

LOL

But I don't see any orange headed offspring here. Hmmm I still say there's a sneaky fella hiding in the "wings" somewhere!

DVBourassa · Post by **DVBourassa** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:16 pm

L in Ontario wrote:I use the one from Carlos M.

64 results?! Holy cow! You've got the whole colour spectrum in there now! LOL LOL

But I don't see any orange headed offspring here. Hmmm I still say there's a sneaky fella hiding in the "wings" somewhere!

Sorry. I forgot to mention that I have mom split to Orange.

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:24 am

No other males. The only other male I have is Sunshine and he is sitting on eggs of his own at the time. He has a mate I think he is devoted to

L in Ontario · Post by **L in Ontario** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:55 am

DVBourassa wrote:
L in Ontario wrote:I use the one from Carlos M.

64 results?! Holy cow! You've got the whole colour spectrum in there now! LOL LOL

But I don't see any orange headed offspring here. Hmmm I still say there's a sneaky fella hiding in the "wings" somewhere!
Sorry. I forgot to mention that I have mom split to Orange.

Ah, see? Those hidden splits will do it all the time.

dfcauley · Post by **dfcauley** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:00 am

L in Ontario wrote:
But I don't see any orange headed offspring here. Hmmm I still say there's a sneaky fella hiding in the "wings" somewhere!

There are two orange headed offspring that are molting up.
Do you really think that the genetic forecaster is always correct?
Just curious......