Split to Blue Breeding

[CandoAviary]

If you have a pair of gouldians both normal looking but are / blue and they breed will you get Blues, /Blues and ....... Normals without the blue gene?

[CandoAviary]

Never Mind.... This had been answered in an old post that I did not comprehend at the time.
Got it this time.
The answer is
Any color bird bred with a blue body bird (Another blue bodied not recommended) will produce /blue.

Two /blue birds bred can produce blues, /blues, and normals

You will not visually be able to tell which will be just normal or /blue unless bred and that bird does produce blue.

[Pukasand]

Candace, you get an A for effort and an A for perserverance! I hope you are correct, because that is what I understand to be true, also.

Try breeding different colors thru this link:

After you choose the color(s) of both the male/female, hit the 'count' button to scroll down and see the results. Pass your mouse over the different offspring to see what they will actually look like. It's a fun and informative site.

http://www.amadinagouldove.cz/gouldian- ... e/english/

THANKS TO: elena_moscow_russia for sharing it in another post.

[L in Ontario]

You go to the head of the class

[lovemyfinch]

Now to add a new question....If both parents are PB/WB and baby is PB will he also be split for WB?

[L in Ontario]

Possibly, but not necessarily. Try inputting the parents info into the Genetic Forecaster.

[lovemyfinch]

They say that it could be Purple or Purple/White

[Robin.V]

Sounds to me that that means they will all be Purple breast but 50% will be split for white breast.

This genetics can get so confusing sometimes

[CandoAviary]

I do not have any white breast ...yet ... but I do have lilac breast.... I believe I need some white breast to carry on the lilac color?
I will try and pay very focus attention this time

I bred a OH LB YB male to a OH PB YB female and got:
OH PB YB males
OH LB YB males
OH PB dilute males
BL PB YB females

Does this mean my parent OH PB YB hen was /white or /lilac?
If she was just purple then would I have gotten the lilac offspring?

Inquiring mind needs to know Thanks.

[Robin.V]

Im not too sure of the lilac breast variant.

Im usually wrong but it seems the LB is possibly a recessive gene.

Possibly pairing the LB with another LB or /LB would keep the variant in the line in about 50% of the offspring.

Again, im not sure of this variant, just making an educated guess

[nixity]

The answer is the exact same as the answer for breeding two /blues together.

You will get 1:3 White Breast to Purple Breast, and 2/3 of the PB will be Purple/White (66%), but you will not know which are /White until you test breed them.

[nixity]

I bred a OH LB YB male to a OH PB YB female and got:
OH PB YB males
OH LB YB males
OH PB dilute males
BL PB YB females

Does this mean my parent OH PB YB hen was /white or /lilac?
If she was just purple then would I have gotten the lilac offspring?

Inquiring mind needs to know Thanks.

Did you breed the OH PB YB Hen? Or did you buy her?
True Lilac is so difficult to come by unless someone is specifically working with it, that I find most Lilacs are /White ("accidental" Lilacs) and I would bet your hen is /White, not /Lilac.

I am working really hard to try to produce DF Lilacs - but the only way to test to make sure they are DF is to pair them with a WB, all Lilacs - then the bird is DF Lilac, but then you just produce MORE Lilac/Whites - which just defeats the purpose :\

One of the ways to test this would be to pair your OH LB Male to a WB hen - if you get WB birds, you know he is Lilac/White and your hen is Purple/White

[CandoAviary]

I bred neither of these birds. I bought the OH LB YB F1 male from Rhonda The OH PB YB hen from a fellow who sold it to me as a male I don't know the grandparents.
So I guess I will buy some white breast someday and experiment some more


Here is a picture of one of the Lilac breasted sons they had that shows the true color better. He looks just like his Dad.

My question was since this pair produced these chicks (lilac breast) does that mean that this PB hen is /white or /lilac ? She looks like a PB but if that was true wouldn't that mean the pair could only produce /lilac not visual lilac breast?

Also, If these birds are /white on both male and female sides will I get white breast? Haven't yet but only had 9 chicks. All either LB or PB.

[nixity]

I bred neither of these birds. I bought the OH LB YB F1 male from Rhonda

Rhonda breeds true lilacs so I would say that male is for sure LB

Here is a picture of one of the Lilac breasted sons they had that shows the true color better. He looks just like his Dad.

Definitely LB!

My question was since this pair produced these chicks (lilac breast) does that mean that this PB hen is /white or /lilac ? She looks like a PB but if that was true wouldn't that mean the pair could only produce /lilac not visual lilac breast?

Yes - to produce a LB your hen that is PB must be split for either white or lilac. What I meant was, it is most likely that she is /White - because not too many people are actively working with Lilac, so unless the breeder specifically knew she was /Lilac and bred that way - I would bet more money on her being /White.
The father is probably also Lilac/White (the Lilac male I got from Rhonda is Lilac/White) - so if the hen is visually purple breasted, but you produced a visual LB son, then she must be Purple/White or Purple/Lilac.
That would mean the son is Lilac/White or DF Lilac, I would guess Lilac/White.
So yes, you could also potentially produce White breasted babies.
And any PB birds produced are "split for white or lilac"

[CandoAviary]

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. The fellow who sold me the PB female said that he had bought his from Rhonda also..... But I am not sure. Though it was banded like she does with a different color band on each leg......... hmmmmmm.
I am thrilled to know that the PB male offspring are /lilac or /white I guess if I don't ever get any WB offsprings I can assume that the hen is /lilac and the male a F2 Lilac? Also the hen offsprings are BH PB YB... would they be split to anything? And why the BH while every male LB and PB and dilutes have had OH?